What is *Actually* Involved in the Upgrade from Insane to Ludicrous?

[Aggmeister2010]

Hey Folks,

I have a 2016.5 Model S P90D. I saw in the Classifieds section of the forum a while back a vendor offering a 90 kWh battery for sale, along with upgrades to ludicrous for anyone who bought it.

That leads me to ask - now that Tesla no longer offers the upgrade from the factory, what's actually involved, and could I have an Indy shop do it if I provide parts from a wrecked P90DL?

I know there's obviously a software component to the upgrade, but what hardware is involved? Is it the standard 90 kWh battery? Different fuses and wiring harness to the battery?

 

[beatle]

I believe the upgrade includes a different "smart" main fuse as well as Inconel contacts for the main pack. Here is an article about it:

Ludicrous Retrofit | TeslaTap

 

[Zishan]

If you have a 2016.5 P90D, then adding Ludicrous should just be a simple software update. Does your app or Tesla accounting show the option to upgrade?

When I bought my 2016.5 P90DL, it was originally a P90D, that Tesla upgraded to Ludicrous to make it more marketable as little to no cost to them. It was software only. I do not think they are doing this anymore, upgrading used ones I mean.

 

[Aggmeister2010]

If you have a 2016.5 P90D, then adding Ludicrous should just be a simple software update. Does your app or Tesla accounting show the option to upgrade?

When I bought my 2016.5 P90DL, it was originally a P90D, that Tesla upgraded to Ludicrous to make it more marketable as little to no cost to them. It was software only. I do not think they are doing this anymore, upgrading used ones I mean.

They aren't doing updates anymore - they stopped doing it before I purchased my car.

 

[Zishan]

When did you get yours? I shopped for a few months and they were upgrading them at the time and when I bought in Aug 2019.


BTW, I think our cars are similar, and I almost went with the same Vossen wheels as you have.

 

[Aggmeister2010]

When did you get yours? I shopped for a few months and they were upgrading them at the time and when I bought in Aug 2019.


BTW, I think our cars are similar, and I almost went with the same Vossen wheels as you have.

Oh wow, really? I bought mine in Feb 2019. What process did you go through to get the ugprade, and how much did you pay?

 

[Zishan]

I bought mine online from Tesla.com as a P90DL, so they added it before I bought it. I didn't have the Ludicrous "underline" badge under the P90D so when I discussed with my Sales Advisor, he looked it up and said it was originally a leased car, without Ludicrous. He said Tesla added Ludicrous via software as a "perk."

At that time, at least when I was searching, 99% of the P90D's had Ludicrous. If you look now (today), there are 15 P90D's listed for sale and only 3 have Ludicrous.

 

[BCNU]

Got my 2016.5 p90d with 30k miles off lease from Tesla. No ludicrous made the price surprisingly low (<$60k). I don't really miss it. Insane+ does the job.

 

[nick_tassi]

Same, no Luda on p90d 2016.5. V3 battery too so the hardware is there... Its still feels lfaster than my insane p85d, but hard to find online actual real world comparisons of the p90d facelift non Luda vs. luda. 0-100km/h, qtr mile etc

 

[Krash]

...hard to find online actual real world comparisons of the p90d facelift non Luda vs. luda. 0-100km/h, qtr mile etc

Would love some more data points here. 455kW and 870Nm is the only v3 0-60 data I have. No quarter mile data for the SP90DL at all. And no non L SP85D data.

 

[Aggmeister2010]

Same, no Luda on p90d 2016.5. V3 battery too so the hardware is there... Its still feels lfaster than my insane p85d, but hard to find online actual real world comparisons of the p90d facelift non Luda vs. luda. 0-100km/h, qtr mile etc

how do you check to see if you have the v3 battery?

 

[Krash]

I found this DEFCon talk on the subject interesting

 

[nick_tassi]

how do you check to see if you have the v3 battery?

Theres a thread floating around, basically based on the serial number on battery, I believe you can see this tag via one of the wheel-wells.

 

[Prowler]

Do all P100d come with ludicrous mode. Looking on their sale web site all P100d have Ludicrous.

 

[Aggmeister2010]

Do all P100d come with ludicrous mode. Looking on their sale web site all P100d have Ludicrous.

i don’t think so, originally it was a $10k option.

But it’s an easy upgrade to perform, so they are probably just doing it to all the used cars they flip to increase the chance of sale and bring in more revenue from them.