Why does Model 3 need CCS/CHAdeMO adapter? This is why.

[halfricanguy]

I pulled up to the Savannah, GA Supercharger to a line of 3 cars ahead of me. 1 of 6 stalls were down, the rest taken. 30 minutes I get into a stall, and my charge rate maxed out at 17 kWh.

I called Tesla and they said they were aware of outages at that location and wouldn’t have someone out until January 4th. The nearest Supercharger was 100+ miles away and it would’ve taken me 1.5-2 hours to finish charging. Thank GOD it upped to 80 kWh after 20 min. I don’t even know if there are nearby CCS/CHAdeMO stations, but it would’ve been GREAT to have an alternative.

 

[Derek Kessler]

Or. OR... Tesla needs to go on a Supercharger building and expansion spree.

 

[Eno Deb]

I don't really see a reason why Tesla wouldn't make a CCS adapter (assuming it's technically feasible). In areas with a high Tesla density (such as CA) they clearly have trouble keeping up with demand. Why not leverage the billions that VW is pumping into Electrify America to help satisfy demand?

 

[dhrivnak]

It looks like Tesla will need to make an adapter as that appear to be a requirement in Europe for future EV sales.

 

[doubleatheman]

It looks like Tesla will need to make an adapter as that appear to be a requirement in Europe for future EV sales.

Maybe, but I thought the EU variant has the CCS port built in directly? Because new EU supercharger locations have the CCS adapter and tesla connector as well.

 

[dhrivnak]

Maybe, but I thought the EU variant has the CCS port built in directly? Because new EU supercharger locations have the CCS adapter and tesla connector as well.

True but that means, to me, that it is possible, for the Model 3 to use CCS signaling and charging.

 

[timk225]

Tesla cars going to Europe have their CCS plug built in, or the Mennekes plug, or whatever it is. Teslas going to China have their GB/T plug, I think it is.

 

[Reeler]

Why not just enable the Chademo adapter that Tesla already sells? Most non-Tesla charging stations support both.

BTW: My Chademo adapter is just gathering dust.

 

[Eno Deb]

Why not just enable the Chademo adapter that Tesla already sells? Most non-Tesla charging stations support both.

CCS will soon outnumber Chademo in the US given that Electrify America strongly favors CCS and Nissan is the only manufacturer left that uses Chademo. Here's the Livermore, CA location - ten chargers, only one of which has a Chademo cable:

 

[roblab]

Don't CCS and ChaDeMo both require credit cards or some such? I have never heard they are free. Or is it you want charging somewhere Tesla isn't? Tesla has built so many chargers it's hard to believe anyone needs to use others. And with 330 mile range (320 on 3, 335 on new S) it's hard to believe most people will need charging at all. Tesla's future plans seem to blanket the US.

 

[jkoya]

I would be in for a CCS adapter. My experience with CHAdeMO and our Nissan Leaf was less than positive.

 

[Eno Deb]

Don't CCS and ChaDeMo both require credit cards or some such? I have never heard they are free.

Tesla's superchargers are no longer free for new buyers either. Given the Model 3 production numbers, the early adopter cars eligible for permanent free charging will soon be a minority (or maybe already are?).

Or is it you want charging somewhere Tesla isn't? Tesla has built so many chargers it's hard to believe anyone needs to use others.

The superchargers are often full in the Bay Area and in the LA/San Diego metro areas. During peak travel times, many other locations along popular routes are also overcrowded. And as the top posting in this thread shows, other areas are starting to be affected as well

 

[abasile]

Don't CCS and ChaDeMo both require credit cards or some such? I have never heard they are free. Or is it you want charging somewhere Tesla isn't? Tesla has built so many chargers it's hard to believe anyone needs to use others. And with 330 mile range (320 on 3, 335 on new S) it's hard to believe most people will need charging at all. Tesla's future plans seem to blanket the US.

Earlier this month, I finally got some use out of the CHAdeMO adapter that we've owned for the past two years or so. It was quite handy to be able to fast charge in a town (Palmdale, CA) that lacks Tesla Superchargers. We were staying overnight and lacked the ability to charge at our accommodations. We needed a 90% charge on our Model S 85 before leaving town, as we were planning to caravan with a group the next day and wouldn't have time to stop at a Supercharger.

While this might have been a bit of a corner case, the point is that you never know when it might come in handy to be able to charge at a non-Tesla location.

On a somewhat related note, I'm in favor of using a Tesla Wall Connector at home so that the UMC (Universal Mobile Connector) can always stay in the car. We've had Tesla owners come to our house to charge (we're in PlugShare) because they forgot their UMC at home and found themselves unable to charge at their rented cabin up here in the mountains.

 

[israndy]

And if you turn that camera around it will probably be like the night I was there, not a single car using the CCS chargers (which are closer tot he mall) and every one of the ~20 Superchargers were occupied. And they are Urban chargers so if you are on a road trip you don't want to charge the bottom half of your battery slowly.

-Randy

 

[Whitmarsh]

Maybe, but I thought the EU variant has the CCS port built in directly? Because new EU supercharger locations have the CCS adapter and tesla connector as well.

The EU/UK version of the Model 3 has a CCS port but Tesla have said they will sell a CCS adapter for Model S & X. There was a picture of it in a recent Elektrek letter.

 

[Derek Kessler]

The EU/UK version of the Model 3 has a CCS port but Tesla have said they will sell a CCS adapter for Model S & X. There was a picture of it in a recent Elektrek letter.

And that adapter has only been confirmed for the Euro/NZ versions of the S and X.

 

[Eno Deb]

And if you turn that camera around it will probably be like the night I was there, not a single car using the CCS chargers (which are closer tot he mall) and every one of the ~20 Superchargers were occupied.

Yep. I had the same experience a couple of weeks ago.

 

[mpmeyer]

Since I already pay for supercharging, I would like the choice to pay for CCS where superchargers are full or not available.

CCS compatibility could provide relief for superchargers where they are heavily used.

 

[Galve2000]

I don't understand why ChAdeMo support has not been enabled on the Model 3 yet.. this is a no-brainer!

 

[halfricanguy]

Or. OR... Tesla needs to go on a Supercharger building and expansion spree.

I completely agree with this too. I-95 is one of the most heavily traveled highways, yet there’s a 310 mile stretch between Jacksonville, FL and Florence, SC that only have 12 stalls between two stations and all had lines of 2-3 cars this weekend. Not as much as seen in California I’m sure, but still frustrating. Especially when there’s no one to help manage the line or limit charging time. Once you get north of Florence, they are more frequent and often have 10-20 stalls per station. I’ve haven’t had a problem traveling between NC and NY, but NC to FL proved difficult.

On another note, it looks like they finally changed all of their many “Target Opening 2018” stations on the Supercharger map to now say 2019.