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Why is the CCS being adopted as the standard?
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If there were public 150 kW+ chargers every 50 miles along the interstate and busy state highway, would Tesla build the Supercharger?
Hell no!
Tesla has to build the Supercharger because there was no public infrastructure at the time.
That doesn't mean that every other automaker should copy Tesla and all have their own exclusive charging networks.
If every automaker has its own exclusive charging network, it would be a disaster.
This is why the government is subsidizing public charging stations.
If there were 150 KW+ RELIABLY WORKING chargers every 50 miles along the interstate and busy state highways, even if they were ugly, kluges like CCS, there would be no need for Tesla or anyone to build the Superchargers.
This was Tesla's original plan.
However: Even a decade after the non-Tesla Nissan Leaf came out, there aren't RELIABLY WORKING chargers out there.
This is the real world and, other than Tesla who is committed to making reliable EV charging work, I, sadly, don't see any sign of it improving much over the next decade unless an automaker (I keep hoping Ford will do something) makes it happen.
Nubo
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The businesses that install government-subsidized and mandated chargers make their money up-front. Nobody but the EV driver is suffering when a charging station acts up or sits unrepaired due to underfunded maintenance or poor design.
Tesla know that their entire business plan depends on their customers having a superlative charging experience every time. It's a top priority.
zoomer0056
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That and survival by pulling the king off the top of the mountain .... if you can. Gov't is a player here, an influencer.
If you ever used FLO in Canada, you know that that isn't true.
FLO charging network has Supercharger-like reliability.
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Too bad they aren't anywhere that I've ever needed them in my over 300,000 miles of EV driving across the USA.
It needs reliability as well as coverage, capacity, and convenience.
Maybe some day . . .
Time to drive across Canada.
Or if you don't have a passport, Vermont. (FLO is there too).
FLO chargers are built like tanks.
It has two buttons (START and STOP) and a calculator screen for a display.
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There are really only 2 places in Canada I really want to drive, Yellowknife and through it to Alaska. FLO covers neither of these routes adequately.
I've also mentioned that my concern is the USA anyway. Canada is not a big part of our energy problem - too small population.
One can get across Vermont many times with one charge. It can be 'fully covered' with a single charging station.
I do like FLO. They do have some smart people but they have a long way to go before they'll be solving many charging problems.
We just returned from renting a CCS Combo 2 equipped Model Y on our vacation.
Wow! That thing is a big beast! It's noticeably worse than the CCS Combo 1 used in the USA, especially the non-Tesla ones with a long, heavy cable in addition to the huge, heavy connector. Its a 2-handed job and would likely be hard for some people who cannot lift heavy objects.
Even the Type-2 connector cable is a beast compared with J-1772.
Wow! That thing is a big beast! It's noticeably worse than the CCS Combo 1 used in the USA, especially the non-Tesla ones with a long, heavy cable in addition to the huge, heavy connector. Its a 2-handed job and would likely be hard for some people who cannot lift heavy objects.
Even the Type-2 connector cable is a beast compared with J-1772.
Has to be as it's got two extra copper wires so it can deliver three phase power
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