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I would not say gas owners are in the same boat. Here’s why; gas doesn’t evaporate over the course of a few weeks.This is a common concern raised by EV skeptics.
And while I doubt that going out for a drive is the first thing on people's minds right now, I suspect that gas car owners would be in the same boat (no pun intended) with likely gas shortages and power outages rendering pump operation impossible.
I have heard (through my wife who follows several ID.4 groups) that the smart owners charged up their vehicles in preparation for the storm, which for long range (250+ miles) vehicles would probably give them enough range to do whatever minimum amount of travel during this time. My sole experience with an extended power outage (3 days) had me mostly hunkering down at home, although we did make one short trip to a store that ran their registers off a generator (you had to bring a flashlight with you to go into the store). Obviously schools & workplaces were closed, so there really wasn't anywhere to go anyway.
Obviously some residents are going to be without power for weeks on end, even once power is partially restored to the area. Again, if there is a reason to actually go anywhere (other than to evacuate), chances are that power would have been restored to the areas where they are wanting to go, so the solution would be to charge (if necessary) at the remote end, and as a bonus, the EV itself can be used to "import" energy back home where the power is out.
For those that are now deciding that it would be a good time to evacuate, hopefully they took advantage of the forecasting that was available and charged their cars in advance of the storm. Jackson, MS is 200 miles from New Orelans, LA, which should be within range of those that prepared.
Here is a current power outage map:
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Red shows power out, and green is power on. The blue line I've drawn is the route from New Orleans to Jackson, and while Jackson does look to be impacted, it still is in relatively good shape overall, so even if someone decided to evacuate at this time (and was actually able to drive along that route), they should be able to make it to a region with power with little difficulty.
A more challenging situation was during Hurricane Irma which came right up the Florida panhandle. Drivers in Miami would have to go several hundred miles to escape the wrath of Irma, with very limited charging options that would have been likely taken down. In situations like that, some of the Tesla mobile Superchargers would be a real help.
What's your estimate of how long the outage will last in such a widespread fashion that there won't be any power available at all, say within 50-100 miles; versus how long you think it takes a Tesla to reach 0% state-of-charge due to vampire drain and self-discharge of the battery?I would not say gas owners are in the same boat. Here’s why; gas doesn’t evaporate over the course of a few weeks.
Depending how long the outage lasts there could be a bunch of Tesla bricks in driveways.
Yes, they are. No electricity means gas stations cannot pump gasolineI would not say gas owners are in the same boat. Here’s why; gas doesn’t evaporate over the course of a few weeks.
Depending how long the outage lasts there could be a bunch of Tesla bricks in driveways.
I guess you don’t understand how gas stations in areas that are prone to power outages work.Yes, they are. No electricity means gas stations cannot pump gasoline
The point is this is something owners of gas vehicles don’t have to think about or roll the dice with.What's your estimate of how long the outage will last in such a widespread fashion that there won't be any power available at all, say within 50-100 miles; versus how long you think it takes a Tesla to reach 0% state-of-charge due to vampire drain and self-discharge of the battery?
Granted, if there was someone completely oblivious to what was going on and had their car at a very low state-of-charge to start with, I'll buy your argument. Hopefully people were smart enough to charge up before the storm hit. Hell, I usually plug in when my car gets down to 100 miles even in good weather.
I guess you don’t understand how gas stations in areas that are prone to power outages work.
I think you're over-stating either the likelihood of a power outage lasting for months or the rate of vampire drain in batteries.But more to the point; you seemed to miss what I am saying. A full tank of gas is still a full tank of gas when left sitting for a week or a month.
A fully charged Tesla left sitting for an extended period of time is a Tesla with a dead battery.
Wondering the same thing we are supposed to be driving from New Braunfels, TX to Florida starting tomorrow afternoon..... I haven't been able to determine if any of the Super Charger stops are operational/down in the affected areas?I evacuated in my tesla from new orleans to houston, charging at the tesla superchargers in Lafayette and Lake Charles. I'm returning Thursday and would appreciate knowing what superchargers are actually working. From the entergy maps if looks like Lake Charles and Lafayette are - has anyone used them post IDA? From the entergy maps can't tell for sure about the baton Rouge supercharger - has anyone used that post IDA. Only interested in what people know for sure, not debates about gas vs EV in evacuations.
On the PlugShare app you can view check ins from people at different chargers. There was a check in Sep 1st (today) at the Lake Charles Supercharger that said the site is up and running. The Model X that checked in got 125kw of charging speed. No check ins were reported recently at the Lafayette charger.Wondering the same thing we are supposed to be driving from New Braunfels, TX to Florida starting tomorrow afternoon..... I haven't been able to determine if any of the Super Charger stops are operational/down in the affected areas?
It can indicate when a Supercharger is totally down or operating at reduced capacity. It's not always 100% accurate though. You'd think that if they lost internet access, it would assume there's a potential issue and warn you accordingly.Does the Supercharger map in the car say which stations are up or down? I'd think it should list non-powered stations as having 0 available slots. Of course that also requires the internet and local cell service to work as well.
I am in Baton Rouge, I work downtown. I just looked at the screen in my car and it shows that the BR Supercharger is operational, but with 2 chargers out of service. It also says there is a short wait to use them.I evacuated in my tesla from new orleans to houston, charging at the tesla superchargers in Lafayette and Lake Charles. I'm returning Thursday and would appreciate knowing what superchargers are actually working. From the entergy maps if looks like Lake Charles and Lafayette are - has anyone used them post IDA? From the entergy maps can't tell for sure about the baton Rouge supercharger - has anyone used that post IDA. Only interested in what people know for sure, not debates about gas vs EV in evacuations.
You may want to reconsider returning so soon though. I'd advise waiting a while longer if you can.I evacuated in my tesla from new orleans to houston, charging at the tesla superchargers in Lafayette and Lake Charles. I'm returning Thursday and would appreciate knowing what superchargers are actually working. From the entergy maps if looks like Lake Charles and Lafayette are - has anyone used them post IDA? From the entergy maps can't tell for sure about the baton Rouge supercharger - has anyone used that post IDA. Only interested in what people know for sure, not debates about gas vs EV in evacuations.
One nice feature of abetterrouteplanner.com is that it does have live Supercharger status regardless of where you are located (unlike in your car, where you have to be within the vicinity of the Supercharger to get live status--unless that policy has changed).I evacuated in my tesla from new orleans to houston, charging at the tesla superchargers in Lafayette and Lake Charles. I'm returning Thursday and would appreciate knowing what superchargers are actually working. From the entergy maps if looks like Lake Charles and Lafayette are - has anyone used them post IDA? From the entergy maps can't tell for sure about the baton Rouge supercharger - has anyone used that post IDA. Only interested in what people know for sure, not debates about gas vs EV in evacuations.