Thought this was TMC and not PistonHeads? This thread is turning into the usual d*ck swinging contest you normally see over there
Personally, I find PH pretty tame these days, stair domination seems like a long lost art that only a few seem to connect with . Maybe it's to do with the fact everyone these days seem to be buying bungalows?? I don't know what the equivalent thread would be......loft stand off??!!