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2012 Model S P85 Battery Replacement Receipt - sharing is caring

Dec 27, 2015
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Cheyenne, WY
I wouldn't say it is a random opinion. It is a logical opinion. I have pointed out the pros and cons and the cost of the switch. And yes if I was on your position I would do exactly what I said if Tesla was willing to write me a check for $17K for the used Model S. At that point, the cost of the id4 is less than the cost of the tesla battery repair and I am gaining a lot and only giving up the acceleration and the tesla badge. But I understand not all decisions people make are base on logic and numbers, but as an engineer, that is how I operate.
You over value your "opinion" and sense of "logic". Since you don't actually own a Signature Red, like or not, yes, your opinion is from some random, opinionated guy. It is also presumptuous that you seem to assume that anyone who owns a Tesla can't somehow figure out a basic balance sheet approach to the problem without you reiterating what others have already stated. What you fail to recognize is sometimes it's not just about money like trading a commodity or stock.

Being an engineer "machts nicht", even less so when suggest that you would replace a Signature Red with a VW ID4. Your "logic" ignores much which in your rigid framework of context others who actually own a Signature Red consider. It is the same kind of narrow thinking which lead to GM shredding instead of selling its fleet of EV-1s. If you are so enamored of the VW ID4 over what you find problematic with owning a Tesla, sell the Tesla you actually own and get one, but please don't pimp for VW here. If you want to get an EV on the cheap, there are other cheap options besides VW, but they all are cheap, not fun, like a Tesla, and certainly not a Signature Red. That fun doesn't fit a balance sheet, slide rule, or any other quantification. The factor missing from any of those is the "joy" which makes owning and driving the Signature Red fun. There are two types of Tesla owners, those who get this, and those who don't. Most Signature Edition owners know what they got. While some ultimately part with it, not infrequently, many regret doing so.
 

AustinP

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Apr 6, 2015
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Belgium
Ours is not a Signature, but hell I consider our “plain” beautiful S85 silver as a collector’s.
I completely recognize what @Jason Bloomberg explains.
There is always hard (ie €$£¥) and soft (ie non material like feeling, joy, comfort,... value) benefits and
/or costs to take into account. One is just math, the other is indeed subjective.
There will be people happy with an ID4 or alike, and it’s great by my book (“any which way but ICE”).
And then there will be people like me that are not gonna let that S go anytime soon.
...Now... if/when Tesla comes with an S with a large frunk, open yacht floor, pano roof and rear wheel drive, I might have second thoughts...😄
 

No2DinosaurFuel

Active Member
Apr 16, 2015
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753
San Diego, California
You over value your "opinion" and sense of "logic". Since you don't actually own a Signature Red, like or not, yes, your opinion is from some random, opinionated guy. It is also presumptuous that you seem to assume that anyone who owns a Tesla can't somehow figure out a basic balance sheet approach to the problem without you reiterating what others have already stated. What you fail to recognize is sometimes it's not just about money like trading a commodity or stock.

Being an engineer "machts nicht", even less so when suggest that you would replace a Signature Red with a VW ID4. Your "logic" ignores much which in your rigid framework of context others who actually own a Signature Red consider. It is the same kind of narrow thinking which lead to GM shredding instead of selling its fleet of EV-1s. If you are so enamored of the VW ID4 over what you find problematic with owning a Tesla, sell the Tesla you actually own and get one, but please don't pimp for VW here. If you want to get an EV on the cheap, there are other cheap options besides VW, but they all are cheap, not fun, like a Tesla, and certainly not a Signature Red. That fun doesn't fit a balance sheet, slide rule, or any other quantification. The factor missing from any of those is the "joy" which makes owning and driving the Signature Red fun. There are two types of Tesla owners, those who get this, and those who don't. Most Signature Edition owners know what they got. While some ultimately part with it, not infrequently, many regret doing so.
Sounds like a tesla fan to me. I wasn't aiming to convince you or the other fans here. I was once in your camp but not anymore now that we have a choices. I just wanted to point out the math for others to read and make their informed decision. And I'm not pimping VW. I just happen to recent bought one and am greatly impressed. Heck I think the ford mustang Mach e would equally do well here or the upcoming ioniq 5 or the upcoming Ford F150 lightning. But some are more costly and others dont exist yet. And I don't comment on things I don't have.

Let's agree to say if you want your fun and don't want to upgrade to the new model S plaid for more fun, then pay for the battery swap and be on your way. If you dont care about fun and care more about making sound financial decision and other creature comfort, then go with something more modern. Mach e, id4, other EVs. I would even recommend the model 3, but sadly it is not in the same class as the model S, and other SUV EVs and with recent price increase is the more expensive choice comparatively.
 

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