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2020.12.6 is downloading!!
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jkoya
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captain_sahaj
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Not sure what happened to my software update priority as an early FSD buyer, but it seems to be gone…
Knightshade
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Jimbydude
Member
My wife is on 2020.12.10.... :-( I'm still on .6
We both are H2.5.
The release notes for .10 we same as .6
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We both are H2.5.
The release notes for .10 we same as .6
Can't seem to attach pic
captain_sahaj
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Exact same thought. I used to be first or second wave, then I got my hardware upgrade, now I watch other people get the software upgrades.
Knightshade
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Garlan Garner
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It can physically do it now... no question.
I guess it s all about baby steps.
Could be about getting the public comfortable with this small step first.
Could be about convincing the govt. of how many stops are being made on the feature everyday to allow regulations to get approved.
Could be about simply making baby steps and getting recommendations from the public and making adjustments first.
who knows?
Knightshade
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Physically do it? Sure. Do it safely? Not so much. Teslas been pretty aggressive in rolling features if they believe they're safe.
Nothing they're doing at Level 2 requires any approval from any regulator- so no.
(in some states even if they pushed (correctly working) L5 it'd require no further approval from anybody)
This is a popular red herring though that people think is holding Tesla back- it's not.
I mean- we know- they have told us-even the release notes kinda mention it- they require a lot more fleet data of the stopping behavior in real life to make it any more automated or trust-able.... and aren't even ready for a baby step like this for additional city road features like accelerating or handling turns.
Tesla release note explicitly states the feature works with TACC or Autosteer. No mention of NoA, let alone NoA only. Apart from hardware, NoA is the only feature unique to FSD that matters. And HW3 is not essential.
My HW2.5 (no FSD) M3 update to 2020.12.5 includes the traffic signal visualizations and warnings with TACC/Autosteer. Why should the 2020.6 incremental beta update work any differently? I imagine full stops unless averted on TACC/Autosteer at traffic signals with or without FSD.
I usually am in the final third group for upgrades. Others will know before me how it really works on nonFSD cars. Any certitude is premature.
Knightshade
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None of that is correct.
For one- There's 2 different FSDs.
NoA is also part of EAP, which isn't FSD.
For another, this new feature absolutely requires HW3.
For a third- the stop light thing is explicitly an FSD feature
You can read the feature list of FSD to find it.
Autopilot and Full Self-Driving Capability
Tesla.com said:
The bit you cite in the notes are only about what modes FSD cars will see this new behavior in.
No it doesn't.
The only new visualization HW2.5 got was cones. No lights, no stop signs.
The 'warning you're about to run one' is in 2.5 but it's not new, been there for months.
Not at all is how it works on non-FSD cars, since it's explicitly an FSD feature.
Has been listed as such since last year.
There's absolute certitude, in writing, from Tesla, since 2019 at least.[/QUOTE][/QUOTE]
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