2021+ Model S and Model S Plaid Refresh Issues Thread

[jebinc]

WAG: When you roll the windows down, the speakers pick up even more noise and turn up the ARNR cancellation frequency.

Extremely disappointing. This was one of the top 3 features I was looking forward to the most and I reckon I'd throw it on the pile of automatic *sugar* that will never work correctly, years down the line. Don't understand why Tesla can be so bad at stuff like this. Don't advertise it until it ****ing works.

And like FSD, don’t collect thousands of dollars before it works as advertised.

 

[WilliamG]

WAG: When you roll the windows down, the speakers pick up even more noise and turn up the ARNR cancellation frequency.

Extremely disappointing. This was one of the top 3 features I was looking forward to the most and I reckon I'd throw it on the pile of automatic *sugar* that will never work correctly, years down the line. Don't understand why Tesla can be so bad at stuff like this. Don't advertise it until it ****ing works.

Yep, this is 100% broken in my car. It's not that it doesn't work, - it's that it makes the noise SO much WORSE. It also pisses me off that I was essentially used as a guineapig without my permission, - for the feature in the first place. Literally, one night I went to bed back in November and the car was nice and quiet, and the VERY NEXT day it was an abomination of noise, with no ability to disable the feature because it was working in "shadow mode" and had not officially been released yet with the toggle option. I only got the ARNR software at the end of January! GRRRRRR!

Tesla, that's NOT OK. Really not happy about that, but then again - story of my life with this car.

 

[VM0412]

Agreed, both Sentry and dashcam works just fine. Just the alert is there and I only see it when I open the controls panel.

Like you, it disappeared with 2022.4.5. Have yet to drive the car, but will spend a few hours tomorrow in it. See if it is reproduced or fixed.

Given the amount of OTA software fixes for "recalls" (stupid word for it, but whatever) that Tesla is pushing, I think Elon is spot on for this year being focused on software. I hope that is beyond FSD and polishing the core OS.

Annddddddd it’s back.

 

[Debokle]

Here’s the road noise I’ve had to deal with for the last 5 months. It’s gotten deafening and Tesla doesn’t care. Not that I’m surprised at this point. Had my wife record it today while I was driving. Turn your volume up…

I hear it even with music on loud.

Just turn on ANR

 

[WilliamG]

Just turn on ANR

Oh that’s good.

 

[n2mb_racing]

Oh that’s good.

Maybe one of your microphones is broken? Anr doesn't make noise in my car.

 

[xEvoLveDx]

^Same, ANR has worked for me and doesn't cause any problems.

 

[WilliamG]

Maybe one of your microphones is broken? Anr doesn't make noise in my car.

Something broken in my car? In my car? But… my car is perfect!

 

[jebinc]

Something broken in my car? In my car? But… my car is perfect!

@WilliamG The wonderful SC you use might have broken, or left disconnected, the wire going to one of the mics - during one of the many tear-downs and rebuilds your car (aka, "the PoS") has gone through!

 

[WilliamG]

@WilliamG The wonderful SC you use might have broken, or left disconnected, the wire going to one of the mics - during one of the many tear-downs and rebuilds your car (aka, "the PoS") has gone through!

Nope. It just started one day... As much as the SC has had troubles, this doesn't (appear) to be one of them!

 

[MorrisonHiker]

^Same, ANR has worked for me and doesn't cause any problems.

Do you notice it doing anything? So far, we've noticed absolutely no difference in our Plaid S and LR S when toggling ARNR on and off.

 

[n2mb_racing]

Do you notice it doing anything? So far, we've noticed absolutely no difference in our Plaid S and LR S when toggling ARNR on and off.

Someone measured a 3 dB noise reduction with it turned on. It's very small.

 

[serendipitous]

Someone measured a 3 dB noise reduction with it turned on. It's very small.

3dB means it's half as loud in that frequency. 3dB is a big change.

I have tried toggling mine on and off and can sense no difference at all in any frequency range while on the road. Not sure if a phone app would be able to show the spectrum and help quantify it, but I'm suspicious that it's just not working in some cars. It's clear that there are a few examples where it doesn't work in the opposite direction - making more noise.

 

[n2mb_racing]

3dB means it's half as loud in that frequency. 3dB is a big change.

I have tried toggling mine on and off and can sense no difference at all in any frequency range while on the road. Not sure if a phone app would be able to show the spectrum and help quantify it, but I'm suspicious that it's just not working in some cars. It's clear that there are a few examples where it doesn't work in the opposite direction - making more noise.

I think 6 dB is half as loud. A change of 1 dB is generally not perceptible. 2) A change of 3dB is just perceptible by most humans. Someone did a measurement with a phone app. I think I have a calibrated dB meter around, I could try testing it...

 

[tbaud]

I think 6 dB is half as loud. A change of 1 dB is generally not perceptible. 2) A change of 3dB is just perceptible by most humans. Someone did a measurement with a phone app. I think I have a calibrated dB meter around, I could try testing it...

Nope Decibel - Wikipedia

 

[n2mb_racing]

Nope Decibel - Wikipedia

Nope. 20 log10(2) = 6 dB

3 dB is 0.707

 

[impastu]

Congrats on the new car! I think everyone has the yoke buzz. Whether they notice it or not is another question.

I don't have any yoke buzzing, seat rattling or other cooing or barking or mooing from the interior. Get yoke replaced, @paulchou

 

[WilliamG]

I don't have any yoke buzzing, seat rattling or other cooing or barking or mooing from the interior. Get yoke replaced, @paulchou

Want to trade cars? Mine is perfect. Really. Totally perfect.

 

[impastu]

Last update on this. Of all things it IS the Active Road Noise Reduction. The reason I dismissed your suggestion is because I reported this issue back in November, before ARNR was even released! The noise just started one day… Now, this gives credence to the idea that some of these car software features are in shadow mode before being released. So Tesla broke my car in software, and now I have the ARNR update (as of a couple of weeks ago) I can now DISABLE the feature and the problem is solved.

I still can’t explain a couple of things:

1.) Why this noise exists in the first place. It’s awful.
2.) Why it was even louder with the windows down.

Anyway, praise be that this problem is fixed. At the same time ARNR is broken, I guess.

ARNR does not work consistently for me. I chalk it up to the non-OEM winter tires, but it's probably just immature coding. I can't imagine it ever working properly with the windows down. Too much unstable background noise to process.

 

[impastu]

Want to trade cars? Mine is perfect. Really. Totally perfect.

ha! I like my white interior, thank you. Also, I like my battery and range, lack of half shaft feedback, reliability, etc.