TBrownTX
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I think it started when little George got ahold of the govt CC and started charging things he could not afford. Remember that surplus? Imagine that.
And it's been a runaway train ever since!
Tim
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I think it started when little George got ahold of the govt CC and started charging things he could not afford. Remember that surplus? Imagine that.
I think it started when little George got ahold of the govt CC and started charging things he could not afford. Remember that surplus? Imagine that.[/
If true, the credit may be limited to quantity per manufacturer. What happens if too many cars were sold between now and passing the bill and the credit us entirely used up with retroactive purchases?It is important that the credit be retroactive because if it is not potential buyers will hold off on buying EVs until the credits kick in, and this is the opposite of an incentive for several months potentially.
With the $7500 tax credit, there was no set number of cars that could receive the tax credit. The 200,000 "limit" was when they started phasing out/reducing the amount of the tax credit. After 200,000 vehicles were sold per manufacturer, starting in the next quarter for 6 months, all vehicles delivered (unlimited) from that manufacturer were eligible for $3750. Then for the next 6 months, all vehicles delivered (unlimited) were eligible for $1875. Tesla ramped up production to greatly increase the number of vehicles that were able to claim the tax credit.If true, the credit may be limited to quantity per manufacturer. What happens if too many cars were sold between now and passing the bill and the credit us entirely used up with retroactive purchases?
Most likely wont be retroactive.
The whole purpose is to encourage the new manufacturung of EV cars (the credit going to the manufacturer with the option of savings passed to the consumer), not reward those who bought the car with the means to afford it.
So, if they retroactively reward 400k cars with the 7,000 credit (a ton have been made since 2018) they've got X amount if time before its gone again and foreign made cars are still more competitive. More likely, wont be retroactive.With the $7500 tax credit, there was no set number of cars that could receive the tax credit. The 200,000 "limit" was when they started phasing out/reducing the amount of the tax credit. After 200,000 vehicles were sold per manufacturer, starting in the next quarter for 6 months, all vehicles delivered (unlimited) from that manufacturer were eligible for $3750. Then for the next 6 months, all vehicles delivered (unlimited) were eligible for $1875. Tesla ramped up production to greatly increase the number of vehicles that were able to claim the tax credit.
Tesla saleman told me yesterday not to wait for this to pass as they would probably just raise the price.Why wouldn't Tesla just raise their prices by $7k and pocket what the government is handing out?
Well, that’s because the salesman wants to sell cars nowTesla saleman told me yesterday not to wait for this to pass as they would probably just raise the price.
I think we can safely assume that the sales person is just guessing. If you don't need the car right now, book it now and postpone the delivery date so as to get the price advantage and tax credits IF ANY.Tesla saleman told me yesterday not to wait for this to pass as they would probably just raise the price.
Also, if you order/deposit now it locks in your price. Then price increases would not affect you.Tesla saleman told me yesterday not to wait for this to pass as they would probably just raise the price.
I also think a lot of time has passed. That was then this is now, by which I mean there is a lot more competition in the market now.Look at the past, Tesla raised prices when the first tax cuts went into effect and lowered them when they were phased out.
The only competition Tesla has, is reaching/sustaining 100% production capacity and delivery without issues.I also think a lot of time has passed. That was then this is now, by which I mean there is a lot more competition in the market now.
I’m curious if Chevy would raise the price on the Bolt if the ITC comes back. At the same time I’m curious if the federal government would react (at all) to such tactics across multiple manufacturers.
Thank you. I had no idea they produced so many cars lately. Looks like roughly 400K per year for the past 2 years.
I see your point about not retroactive to so many. Maybe retroactive to Jan 1? Hard to say how to incentivize and not penalize. Interesting...