ssq
Member
here is my opinion on this - for me the 70D covers a massive majority of usage in terms of range. So I am saving the extra 15k odd to buy a Model 3. Also, I am not in a position when 10k odd is short change for me.. :tongue:
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omgwtfbyobbq
Active Member
Yeah, unless the bikes/rack are really small, the X will take a smaller hit than the S. But the size of that hit could be substantial depending on how far out/back the bikes stick out from the X. If someone had access to an X with a rack/bikes, they could do a few bi-directional runs with and without the rack/bikes and get a good idea of what they do to energy consumption.
Oceanwolf
Oceanwolf
I just received a call from Tesla. If I upgrade my 70D to 90D I will be able to receive my car at the end of the April. The cost difference is 13K.
I don't know, I'll sleep over it for a couple of nights. I have time until Monday to decide.
Onur
I don't know, I'll sleep over it for a couple of nights. I have time until Monday to decide.
Onur
fengshui
Member
Interesting. What was your original reservation number and what options did you choose on your 70D? Air Suspension? Premium Package?
Oceanwolf
Oceanwolf
K-MTG
Sunshade Captain of TMC
When did you confirm? I have the same order as you but didn't get a call.
Also, did he say Tesla is willing to waive the $500 fee?
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As a fellow 70D reservation holder (with no desire to upgrade), I'm curious. Did they give any indication of the trade-off? Specifically, any indication when could you expect to receive the 70D if you don't upgrade?
Merrill
Merrill
They must be really trying to finish Q1 with a bang. Not sure why you would change your decision, you knew when ordering the 70 you would not get your car until fall and you also decided that it would work for you and spending $13,000 for 37 miles was not worth it.
Not to mention, it sounds like production on all models is accelerated. So that fall timeframe may be moved up, if we are to believe what we're hearing.
Oceanwolf
Oceanwolf
I agree, I already made the decision while I was ordering. It is just tempting to get my hands on it earlier.
Merrill
Merrill
As ohmman said we may get it earlier, for me I do not care but would like it to be ready to go and have all the bugs worked out.
Merrill
Merrill
Just got an e-mail saying they slowed production in the last couple of months to insure quality and now they have resolved those issues and to expect my 70 mid year. This is new because it originally said mid to late this year, and of course said if I wanted to switch to a 90 could have it next month.
Oceanwolf
Oceanwolf
It will be interesting to see what this means for 70D deliveries overall. Always something of a fools errand to try to figure out what is going on behind the scenes, but this wouldn't be Q1 financials driven since they were talking about late April delivery. It would seem this sort of call would be triggered by either or any of the below:
1) Customer service: Since you are in CA, getting 90D order paperwork finalized by 3/31 would effectively give you a $2,500 discount on trading up to the 90D. Still a lot of money for the upgrade, but nice to have the option. (I'm not in CA, but my understanding is you don't actually need to take final delivery to qualify for the expiring credit. Not sure if late April delivery is soon enough to get you under the wire for that or not.)
2) Managing profit/unit: The 90D is more profitable than the 70D, so anyone they can get to trade up is good for them.
One interesting note is that if the only reason for making the call on Tesla's side is #2, it implies that some 70D's will likely start to getting produced in Q2. If they had enough confirmed orders for 90's to fill their production capacity in Q2, there would be no reason to try to find more. If they don't currently have enough 90D's to fill their Q2 queue, the 70D's are next in line.
Presumably, the biggest indicator will be if someone outside CA gets a call to upgrade their 70D.
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Ha! I was typing my other message when you posted this. Would seem to confirm faster delivery. I was being pessimistic and assuming something like Nov/Dec delivery before. Would be a pleasant surprise to get delivered earlier than that.
Oceanwolf
Oceanwolf
I confirmed in mid Jan. I did not get to $500 waiver. After all $13k is a big number to swallow.
Oceanwolf
Oceanwolf
CA Credit is not going away. It will just disappear for folks who make more than 500K filing jointly. Hey, If I were making that much, I would be already getting myself a P90DL. :smile:
Ahh! Didn't realize the specifics. My whole post has pretty much been overtaken by all the Tesla emails. Though I suppose Tesla doesn't know you don't make over $500k.
ssq
Member
Wait! you are reservation number 16XXX (is that correct?) and they told you you could get the car mid year!!! WOW ! I am 16xxx too, this makes me super happy!
Librae
Member
I'm 17xxx and they just told me that I should expect my 70D in November-December. Of course this was in the context of trying to get me to upgrade.