Am I overthinking this?

[DroopyMallard]

I currently own an Ioniq 5. According to my EVSE it's giving me an average of 35 kWh per night when it charges after my daily commute. I have a 2023 SR on order but I'm starting to second guess that I'll be pushing it if I do anything outside of my daily commute when I go to work. The Ioniq I believe is 77.4 usable kWh and I charge to 90% daily which is ~ 69.66 kWh.

Am I overthinking this? I've attached the stats for reference.

 

[TesslaBull]

Tesla will use less energy for the same commute. Hyundai's brand new EV platform is not very efficient. Also, since you are posting in the Model S forum, the "standard" model S has 405 mile range.

 

[Rottenapplr]

I think I use about the same amount of energy for my daily commute but I charge to 70-80% and always get home between 25-38% depending on how much charge I use. The Ioniq is fine and if anything it’s about the same size or a little bit smaller battery pack than a LR model 3. My 2019 model 3 long range is about 75kwh battery size I think.

 

[LoudMusic]

How far is your round trip commute?

 

[DroopyMallard]

I think I use about the same amount of energy for my daily commute but I charge to 70-80% and always get home between 25-38% depending on how much charge I use. The Ioniq is fine and if anything it’s about the same size or a little bit smaller battery pack than a LR model 3. My 2019 model 3 long range is about 75kwh battery size I think.

Well I'm getting the SR which is why I'm questioning it I guess.

 

[DroopyMallard]

How far is your round trip commute?

90 miles with 90% of it being highway driving.

 

[Rottenapplr]

90 miles with 90% of it being highway driving.

Dude that’s 90 miles road trip? That’s nothing your sr can do it. It’s not a 2014 Nissan leaf come on now.

 

[DroopyMallard]

Dude that’s 90 miles road trip? That’s nothing your sr can do it. It’s not a 2014 Nissan leaf come on now.

I know I know but the kWH numbers concerned me. However someone did mention that the Ioniq 5 isn’t as efficient as the M3 which makes sense.

 

[dafish]

No, but you are over-charging things.

 

[DroopyMallard]

No, but you are over-charging things.

Hyundai recommends 90% for the Ioniq 5.

 

[Rottenapplr]

I know I know but the kWH numbers concerned me. However someone did mention that the Ioniq 5 isn’t as efficient as the M3 which makes sense.

That’s true. It’s a box. The ionqiq 6 is way more efficient and use the same battery size with superior range. I don’t get the logic of getting rid of the 5… why buy the model 3. I frankly like the ioniq 5 over the model 3.

 

[DroopyMallard]

That’s true. It’s a box. The ionqiq 6 is way more efficient and use the same battery size with superior range. I don’t get the logic of getting rid of the 5… why buy the model 3. I frankly like the ioniq 5 over the model 3.

Tax credit, I prefer the Tesla “tech and UI” 100 times better than the 5. Try something different.

 

[stopcrazypp]

I currently own an Ioniq 5. According to my EVSE it's giving me an average of 35 kWh per night when it charges after my daily commute. I have a 2023 SR on order but I'm starting to second guess that I'll be pushing it if I do anything outside of my daily commute when I go to work. The Ioniq I believe is 77.4 usable kWh and I charge to 90% daily which is ~ 69.66 kWh.

I have a SR+, 90 miles round trip is trivial. I do a similar trip travelling around 70-75mph with elevation changes and use up to about 1.2x the rated range, so about 110 miles. The SR with Aero covers is quite efficient and it doesn't appear you are in a winter state so you would be fine.

Anything up to 200 miles is still fairly easy, plus superchargers make it easy to do trips beyond that. Plus the current RWD Model uses a LFP pack which can tolerate 100% charges much better and have less degradation, and it starts out with a higher 272 mile rated range.

 

[ucmndd]

The Tesla is far far more efficient than the Ioniq 5.

You didn’t say which version you have but the Ioniq 5’s EPA rated efficiency is between 300-340wh/mi depending on model.

Model 3 RWD is 250wh/mi.

 

[DroopyMallard]

The Tesla is far far more efficient than the Ioniq 5.

You didn’t say which version you have but the Ioniq 5’s EPA rated efficiency is between 300-340wh/mi depending on model.

Model 3 RWD is 250wh/mi.

Whoops sorry. SEL RWD.

 

[ucmndd]

Whoops sorry. SEL RWD.

So that’s 300wh/mi assuming the long range battery, which it looks like all SELs have?

So by the book a Model 3 RWD will be ~17% more efficient than your current car over the same trip (using 29kwh vs your currently observed 35kwh).

In the real world, at highway speeds, I think you’ll find the actual difference to be even greater.

 

[DroopyMallard]

So that’s 300wh/mi assuming the long range battery, which it looks like all SELs have?

So by the book a Model 3 RWD will be ~17% more efficient than your current car over the same trip (using 29kwh vs your currently observed 35kwh).

In the real world, at highway speeds, I think you’ll find the actual difference to be even greater.

That’s interesting to know thank you! I wasn’t even thinking about the efficiency which is a mistake on my part. That’s the point of my post

 

[islandbayy]

The Model 3 will be considerably more efficient than the Hyundai.

 

[SageBrush]

@ucmndd is spot on

The Tesla is far far more efficient than the Ioniq 5.

In the real world, at highway speeds, I think you’ll find the actual difference to be even greater.

Here are the calcs

Compare Side-by-Side

Compare the MPG of cars and trucks side-by-side. Compare the gas mileage and greenhouse gas emissions of new and used cars and trucks

www.fueleconomy.gov

Ioniq 5 EPA highway range is 303*(98/114) = 260 miles
Tesla 272 highway range is 272*(126/132) = 259.6 miles

That is EPA. If OP is driving faster than EPA then the Tesla model will have longer highway range than the Ioniq 5. OP can expect to arrive home with a higher SoC in the Tesla than he did in the Ioniq 5, presuming the same starting SoC

One thing though to know about the LFP Tesla: It is best to charge up to 100% SoC about once a week to keep the battery BMS calibrated. For the rest of the week OP can (and should) charge to what is needed plus a reasonable safety margin of around 15% SoC. Once in a while that will not be enough, but the Supercharger network has his back.

 

[DuncanM]

That’s interesting to know thank you! I wasn’t even thinking about the efficiency which is a mistake on my part. That’s the point of my post

The M3 RWD is amazingly efficient. Plus you have so many more options for charging because you can use the Tesla SC network and all the CCS1 networks via the CCS1 adapter.