Are new 2023 RWD (or AWD) Model 3 coming with yellow rear indicators and revised brake lights?

[turns2stone]

My '23 Performance 3 has the new tail lights that behave like the Model Y. What about RW/AWD? Not sure if AWD are currently being delivered...

Further info and pictures: Tesla updates Model 3 taillights in North America to add amber turn signals and more

 

[akipal]

'23 RWD still has same tail lights with red brake and turn signal combined

 

[DocHolliday]

Interesting. Wonder if this will be a plug-and-play retrofit. I would much prefer the amber turns.

 

[comanchepilot]

Interesting. Wonder if this will be a plug-and-play retrofit. I would much prefer the amber turns.

You’re gonna need an amber led or bulb installed. Or a new rail housing for a white bulb.

 

[DocHolliday]

I'm not sure I follow. If the housing is a drop-in replacement and the wiring harness is the same, why would any of that be necessary?

...not saying that it is, that's just me hoping.

 

[akipal]

I'm not sure I follow. If the housing is a drop-in replacement and the wiring harness is the same, why would any of that be necessary?

...not saying that it is, that's just me hoping.

same connectors but our US M3 has brake + turn signal combined in one wire.
there is 1 dedicated brake wire which is not used by M3
so if we drop MY tail lights on M3, we will get same brake light like MY, but amber turn signal will light up on turning signal & braking as well
that is why we need a special adapters to eliminate brake signal from turn signal.

 

[comanchepilot]

I'm not sure I follow. If the housing is a drop-in replacement and the wiring harness is the same, why would any of that be necessary?

...not saying that it is, that's just me hoping.

They’ve installed what they installed. Where is the amber light gonna come from?

 

[Clover]

Interesting. Wonder if this will be a plug-and-play retrofit. I would much prefer the amber turns.

Interesting. Lots of US people have been swapping lights for Euro versions to avoid amber for a long time. A little surprised to see someone want amber. What do you like about it? Do you prefer the amber ascetically or is the safety you are after?

 

[DocHolliday]

Interesting. Lots of US people have been swapping lights for Euro versions to avoid amber for a long time. A little surprised to see someone want amber. What do you like about it? Do you prefer the amber ascetically or is the safety you are after?

Little bit of both actually. There have been studies that indicate (pun) amber turns are more obvious to other drivers and I kinda like it.

 

[DocHolliday]

same connectors but our US M3 has brake + turn signal combined in one wire.
there is 1 dedicated brake wire which is not used by M3
so if we drop MY tail lights on M3, we will get same brake light like MY, but amber turn signal will light up on turning signal & braking as well
that is why we need a special adapters to eliminate brake signal from turn signal.

Yes, if it's the same as the Y assembly I know it won't work without mods.

 

[Candleflame]

Interesting. Lots of US people have been swapping lights for Euro versions to avoid amber for a long time. A little surprised to see someone want amber. What do you like about it? Do you prefer the amber ascetically or is the safety you are after?

amber is much safer. much safer than adding in a third brakelight.

 

[Alpha Motoring]

Following, curious to know if it'll work.

 

[3sr+buyer]

Interesting. Lots of US people have been swapping lights for Euro versions to avoid amber for a long time. A little surprised to see someone want amber. What do you like about it? Do you prefer the amber ascetically or is the safety you are after?

A NHTSA study found that amber rear turn signals slightly (5.3%) reduced the risk of getting rear-ended in turning, merging, or lane-changing situations, when comparing various models of cars that changed between red and amber rear turn signals on the same body style.

https://crashstats.nhtsa.dot.gov/Api/Public/ViewPublication/811115

 

[E90alex]

Yes, if it's the same as the Y assembly I know it won't work without mods.

There’s a long thread on this already. They are the same tail lamp unit as Model Y with amber signals. Physically they fit and plug in, but there is a difference in software configuration.

Red turn signal cars are programmed to combine the turn signal and brake light into one wire. 4th wire still exists and is for brake signal, but is not connected to anything inside the lamp housing.

Amber turn signal cars utilize all 4 wires and the turn signal wire is programmed purely as turn signal only instead of doing double duty as also brake.

Net effect is if you plug an amber signal housing into a car programmed for red signal, the amber turn signal will light up every time you brake. Unfortunately no way to change software configuration even if you ask Tesla service, so people have been making adapters.

Tail Light Retrofit- AMBER turn signal

One thing I've always hated about my 3 was how they use the Brake light as the turn signal. I'm a big believer in a dedicated color(amber) for turn signal. Unfortunately a lot of manufactures are going away from that in favor for the brake/turn combo. Maybe it's cost savings.IDK, but I am out...

teslamotorsclub.com

 

[Solidred]

I have a 6/23 built RWD, it has amber rear turn signals.

 

[Solidred]

I have a 6/23 built RWD, it has amber rear turn signals. Also a Fremont Build

 

[Black306]

I have a 6/23 built RWD, it has amber rear turn signals.

Must have changed sometime between April and June; my ‘23 is red with a 4/23 build date.

 

[3sr+buyer]

Seems like they are finally unifying the Model 3 and Y rear lighting in the US just in time for the Model 3 to change to a different form factor of rear lighting in the Highland refresh.

 

[akipal]

yes I see now many M3 RWD with amber turn signal around.

 

[king.cong.1119]

thats good to know, I am picking up my M3 RWD tonight and can't wait to find out whether its amber or red.