It is $731 for our 2017 MS 75
I wonder how much it'll be for our M3 and MS next year.
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CA owner, sales tax, registration, license fees?
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I wonder how much it'll be for our M3 and MS next year.
Lots. I am in the same club. And because of the way the new federal tax law works, I won't be able to write off the DMV fees anymore. That was previously at least a small consolation.
Didn't they add a new fee for EVs this year to make up for the gas taxes we don't pay? I am guessing that is why they are so high.
Edit: I guess we aren't seeing the $100 EV fee yet, but are seeing a $25-$175 increase based on the value of the car that is applied to everyone. Guess we are hitting the top end of that scale. California Introducing Annual $100 Fee For Zero-Emission Vehicle Owners ... In 2020 | CleanTechnica
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As you correctly edited your post, the plain $100 come in 2020 as far as I understood. But nobody ever talked about the $25-175 increase we are feeling now. I was totally unaware of that. I don't want to start any political argument here, but I really dislike this liberal tax state. Yes CA is beautiful, but the taxes are insane (just like in many other liberal states). Again, don't want to start a political discussion and hoping not to offend anyone with that. I think nobody likes high taxation here...
WileyTheMan
Peanut Gallery Member
I just received registration renewals for my electric vehicles:
2013 Tesla MS85
Registration Fee $258
License Fee $503
County/District Fee $21
TOTAL $782
2012 Mitsubishi i-MiEV
Registration Fee $133
License Fee $37
County/District Fee $21
TOTAL $191
2001 Corbin Sparrow
Registration Fee $110
License Fee $7
County/District Fee $21
TOTAL $138
I've tried, but could not find the computation for the Registration Fee component. Can anyone explain this, other than "...all vehicle owners will be charged a variable annual fee of between $25 and $175..."? TIA
License Fee is based on vehicle value and thus used to be deductible on the Federal Tax return.
To top it all off, my Allstate Insurance more than doubled on the Tesla to $2077 annually (and that's after they included 'good driver' and 'distinguished driver' and multi-policy 'discounts' of $1310). And to think the Tesla is reserved only for long trips and almost never driven locally...
Guess I need to drive the Tesla even more than the present 25K/yr to reduce the per-mile costs.
2013 Tesla MS85
Registration Fee $258
License Fee $503
County/District Fee $21
TOTAL $782
2012 Mitsubishi i-MiEV
Registration Fee $133
License Fee $37
County/District Fee $21
TOTAL $191
2001 Corbin Sparrow
Registration Fee $110
License Fee $7
County/District Fee $21
TOTAL $138
I've tried, but could not find the computation for the Registration Fee component. Can anyone explain this, other than "...all vehicle owners will be charged a variable annual fee of between $25 and $175..."? TIA
License Fee is based on vehicle value and thus used to be deductible on the Federal Tax return.
To top it all off, my Allstate Insurance more than doubled on the Tesla to $2077 annually (and that's after they included 'good driver' and 'distinguished driver' and multi-policy 'discounts' of $1310). And to think the Tesla is reserved only for long trips and almost never driven locally...
Guess I need to drive the Tesla even more than the present 25K/yr to reduce the per-mile costs.
TaoJones
Beyond Driven
That's nuts? Try $700 and change a year ago for a new S. And then this year? Right at $1,000. Yep - it went *up* almost 30%.
That also was the last straw. Am actively looking for a new state to domicile in as a result.
https://www.dmv.ca.gov/portal/dmv/detail/pubs/brochures/fast_facts/ffvr34#tif
Transportation improvement fee is what it is.
TaoJones
Beyond Driven
I've not had a lot of luck getting decent rates from Allstate for California stuff. Although their stated value policy quote for the last S wasn't ridiculous - $3500 or so, and Chubb's was not much higher at $4200 iirc.
Maybe you'll have better luck with one of the following that I've found competitive both times in CA - although Wawanesa quoted 50% higher for the new S and then 6 months later was back to what I had been paying for a 2.5-year old S. However, by then I found Progressive, which offers both CSL (Combined Single Limit) as well as decent gap coverage (25% of value for about $25/year) for about the same cost.
So in order of value perceived or otherwise - and these are SoCal quotes fwiw:
Progressive
Wawanesa
Geico
Costco-Ameriprise - 45% "discount" for multi-car and 5% for Costco membership.
The highest were from:
Chubb
Allstate
AAA
Although again, the first two of those were for stated value policies.
I've got the usual discounts and a clean record. My mistake was domiciling the car in SoCal in the first place.
Good luck.
How come a 2013 MS still cost $782 for registration renewal.. I thought it's suppose to decrease each year.. but yours is even more than our 2017 MS75I just received registration renewals for my electric vehicles:
2013 Tesla MS85
Registration Fee $258
License Fee $503
County/District Fee $21
TOTAL $782
2012 Mitsubishi i-MiEV
Registration Fee $133
License Fee $37
County/District Fee $21
TOTAL $191
2001 Corbin Sparrow
Registration Fee $110
License Fee $7
County/District Fee $21
TOTAL $138
I've tried, but could not find the computation for the Registration Fee component. Can anyone explain this, other than "...all vehicle owners will be charged a variable annual fee of between $25 and $175..."? TIA
License Fee is based on vehicle value and thus used to be deductible on the Federal Tax return.
To top it all off, my Allstate Insurance more than doubled on the Tesla to $2077 annually (and that's after they included 'good driver' and 'distinguished driver' and multi-policy 'discounts' of $1310). And to think the Tesla is reserved only for long trips and almost never driven locally...
Guess I need to drive the Tesla even more than the present 25K/yr to reduce the per-mile costs.
TaoJones
Beyond Driven
How come a 2013 MS still cost $782 for registration renewal.. I thought it's suppose to decrease each year.. but yours is even more than our 2017 MS75
As noted above, my registration went up 30% this year. Thats almost as offensive as the line item for the reflective plate fee.
J3diMast3r
Member
I'm almost in the same boat....I just placed my order on 3/22 for the exact same configuration as the OP (except I chose blue instead of red)
My question is: Will the sales tax be calculated on the $56k price or will be calculated after they take into account the $1k deposit and the $2.5k order payment?
If we were to subtract $3.5k from the $56k price, then we would obviously pay less sales tax since it would calculated based on the $5k - $3,5k price ($51.5k). Just wanted to confirm with any current Model 3 owners that have gone through the whole process.
My question is: Will the sales tax be calculated on the $56k price or will be calculated after they take into account the $1k deposit and the $2.5k order payment?
If we were to subtract $3.5k from the $56k price, then we would obviously pay less sales tax since it would calculated based on the $5k - $3,5k price ($51.5k). Just wanted to confirm with any current Model 3 owners that have gone through the whole process.
California calculates it on the total price of the car ($56k in your case). The deposits you pay don't decrease the amount you're taxed on. I'm not 100% sure if tax is paid on the $1k delivery/doc fee though.
It’s based on the sale price of the car. It doesn’t matter what you put down. If the price of your car $56k, then you’re taxed on $56k ( less destination fee)
My turn, just got my renewal for Sept, $700 exactly. MS 60D 2016. San Diego. It was a shock, but thanks for all posters here I now know why.
To top it all off, my Allstate Insurance more than doubled on the Tesla to $2077 annually (and that's after they included 'good driver' and 'distinguished driver' and multi-policy 'discounts' of $1310). And to think the Tesla is reserved only for long trips and almost never driven locally...
Guess I need to drive the Tesla even more than the present 25K/yr to reduce the per-mile costs.
Try the Tesla insurance on the Tesla site. That should go way down!
That is if you are in CA
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FlyErik
Member
You're absolutely correct here....
Punishing people for buying electric is hypocritical at best - virtue signaling for sure.... And yet people keep voting for the same crusty 'progressive' leadership that has regressed us into a homeless haven with the highest taxes, worst roads, and least accountable elitist leaders.
But I don't wanna get into a debate either.......
*twiddle thumbs*
FlyErik
Member
My Model 3 annual renewal here in the bay area, CA is $607. I feel like I'm being punished for having a zero emissions car.... Ridiculous.
