Center screen.. Why not flush?

[22522]

Agree that the last stage needs to fix everything. Don't know that enormous length is required if you do the optics right.

 

[Garlan Garner]

I hope I know which way I'm turning. I don't really need any lights to tell me which way.

Why do you guys need turn signal lights?

 

[daniel]

Why do you guys need turn signal lights?

Turn signal indicators are needed so the driver is aware of what s/he is signaling to the other drivers on the road. It happens sometimes that one bumps the stalk and sets off the turn blinkers when one does not intend to. Or in a shallow turn, the blinker fails to shut off. The indicator allows one to be aware that one is giving a misleading signal and rectify it.

 

[alseTrick]

What you says can apply to almost the entire Model 3 forum!
After all, we are having a discussion based on a car which no one has seen or driven in its production form!
I believe most readers understand this when joining in the discussion here for Model 3. So no one is lying to any one else.

1. I specifically said there were a number of topics where if anyone was speaking to you as if something were fact, or final, that they were lying/wrong.

2. (Without going back to read your earlier comments,) If you feel I was calling you a liar, then it is likely because you were making declarative statements instead of obviously speculative remarks.

 

[boiler81]

I hope I know which way I'm turning. I don't really need any lights to tell me which way.

Do the turn signals on the MS, MX, (and M3?) cancel automatically after a lane change? If not the driver needs to know this, since driving with the turn signal ON is a common occurrence with many drivers at one time or another.

 

[Garlan Garner]

My car alerts me when my turn signal is on for an excessive time. I don't think I have ever looked at my turn signal lights. That's the honest truth.

Enough about turn signals.

 

[Garlan Garner]

Turn signal indicators are needed so the driver is aware of what s/he is signaling to the other drivers on the road. It happens sometimes that one bumps the stalk and sets off the turn blinkers when one does not intend to. Or in a shallow turn, the blinker fails to shut off. The indicator allows one to be aware that one is giving a misleading signal and rectify it.

I'm fully aware of the purpose of turn signals, however I have never had to visually need them. I can hear them whenever they are on and when they are on too long...the car tells me.

 

[garsh]

I'm fully aware of the purpose of turn signals, however I have never had to visually need them. I can hear them whenever they are on and when they are on too long...the car tells me.

1. So you're one of those people who leave their turn signals on long after the turn has been completed. Long enough for the car to tell you. And then you wonder why a visual indicator is necessary. I don't understand your logic.
2. You say you hear them, yet it's obvious that sometimes you neither see nor hear them, and instead rely on the car to tell you that you're acting deaf and blind. Again, I don't understand why you think this is acceptable instead of having a visual indicator.
3. Some people don't have good hearing (often old people), and don't hear the clicking. They need the visual indicator.

 

[JeffK]

A blinking indicator on the center screen would probably still be noticed and they could easily make a ticking/clicking sound. I think it's a non-issue even without a HUD.

 

[S3XY]

Beyond the sound indication is the turn signal lights that are mounted on the side mirrors. I can easily see it out of the corner of my eye when it's flashing.

 

[Sonny Daze]

I assume when FSD is enabled the turn signal indicators will be activated automatically when the car turns or changes lanes.

 

[JeffK]

I assume when FSD is enabled the turn signal indicators will be activated automatically when the car turns or changes lanes.

The indicators, the signals themselves, or both?

I'd probably want both.

 

[Sonny Daze]

The indicators, the signals themselves, or both?

I'd probably want both.

I was focusing on the indicators because they are obviously the most important information displayed on the dash.

 

[JeffK]

I was focusing on the indicators because they are obviously the most important information displayed on the dash.

I mean if it was fully self driving and I wasn't in the car then the indicators themselves would objectively be less important because there's no one to see them.

I'm sure they'll exist in some form or another.

 

[daniel]

I mean if it was fully self driving and I wasn't in the car then the indicators themselves would objectively be less important because there's no one to see them.

I'm sure they'll exist in some form or another.

Fully self-driving cars won't even have a dashboard. Though before we get there we'll have partially self-driving cars that will look like current cars inside with a driver's seat where someone has to be in order to take over when needed.

 

[Sonny Daze]

I mean if it was fully self driving and I wasn't in the car then the indicators themselves would objectively be less important because there's no one to see them.

But if a turn signal indicator blinks and no one is there to see it, is it really blinking?

 

[DrivingTheFuture]

Bingo.

Finally someone gets it.

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[Model 3]

I mean if it was fully self driving and I wasn't in the car then the indicators themselves would objectively be less important because there's no one to see them.

But is there is passengers in the FSD car, the indicators will alert them about that the car is planing a turn - or a lane change - in advance. Some people may appreciate that.

 

[Candleflame]

im pretty sure tesla will have problems with a non flush mounted screen. at least in europe. there are no sharp edges to be allowed in the cockpit afaik.

 

[JeffK]

im pretty sure tesla will have problems with a non flush mounted screen. at least in europe. there are no sharp edges to be allowed in the cockpit afaik.

luckily the corners are rounded slightly