Climate Change Denial

[DrLOAC]

The Ice Ages began 2.4 million years ago and lasted until 11,500 years ago. During this time, the earth's climate repeatedly changed between very cold periods, during which glaciers covered large parts of the world, and very warm periods during which many of the glaciers melted.

Earth about 4.5 billion years old. Just look at the Ice Age [2.4 million years] and explain the ups & down of temperature [note: sea level changes]
And try to think of what caused these rapid changes. Seems we have almost no idea how climate changes/works.

Pollution obviously bad.

It seems YOU have almost no idea how climate changes/work.

Luckily that’s an easily fixable problem unlike climate change.

To get you started learn how the climate works here:

ACS Advocacy Workshops - American Chemical Society

American Chemical Society: Chemistry for Life.

www.acs.org

Then to understand long term cyclic changes in climate watch this:

 

[JRP3]

Pilot lights go out and residential users don’t check them when the gas comes back on. This dramatically increases the risks of homeowners going BOOM.

Pilot lights should have thermocouples that shut off the gas if the light goes out.

 

[DrLOAC]

Pilot lights should have thermocouples that shut off the gas if the light goes out.

Sure but it’s a numbers game. How many of the 10,000s of customers have something wrong with their gas systems. How many left burners on when the gas went off and didn’t remember to shut them off.

Just takes a couple before somebody’s house explodes.

 

[JRP3]

Good points. I'm amazed we don't see more explosions than we already have.

 

[Big Dog]

Pilot lights should have thermocouples that shut off the gas if the light goes out.

The pilot lights on both of my nat gas water heater and furnace have thermocouples.....just assumed that it has been code for awhile, no?

 

[ohmman]

Good points. I'm amazed we don't see more explosions than we already have.

I feel the same way about traffic accidents.

 

[SummerlinChiro]

Does this suggest anything to you?

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It suggests to me that our too-low CO2 levels are finally starting to recover

 

[ohmman]

It suggests to me that our too-low CO2 levels are finally starting to recover


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Now overlay human existence on it.

 

[nwdiver]

It suggests to me that our too-low CO2 levels are finally starting to recover


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So sea levels should be >200' higher?!

 

[JRP3]

It suggests to me that our too-low CO2 levels are finally starting to recover

Too low for what? In case you don't realize it the ecosystem that sustains us adapted slowly over time to those CO2 levels. A sudden change such as what we are seeing is going to cause major problems.

 

[AquaY]

I have no intention of ever going to Texas. Happy to leave them alone. Elon looks like he is adjusting to third world conditions.

Hysterical.
Which state doesn‘t have clean water consistently?
Which state can no longer supply electricity consistently so they have roaming black outs?
Whcih state has a city where they issue a map of where the human feces is located?

 

[eevee-fan]

Hysterical.
Which state doesn‘t have clean water consistently?
Which state can no longer supply electricity consistently so they have roaming black outs?
Whcih state has a city where they issue a map of where the human feces is located?

What is roaming blackouts?!?

 

[AquaY]

What is roaming blackouts?!?

When the electrical utility company chooses different areas to shut power off because they can not supply enough electricity for all their customers in the state.
It differs from a brown out because it is a planned shutdown and not simply a drop in voltage

 

[FlatSix911]

What is roaming blackouts?!?

Rolling Blackouts and Human Feces mapping... welcome to the Third World State of California.

Mapping San Francisco's Human Waste Challenge - 132,562 Cases Reported In The Public Way Since 2008

New mayor, London Breed, won election by promising to clean things up. However, conditions are the same or worse. Last year, the number of reports spiked to an all-time high at 28,084. In first quarter 2019, the pace continued with 6,676 instances of human waste in the public way.

www.forbes.com

During Rolling Blackouts Last Summer, California Kept Exporting Power Out of State. There's Still No Permanent Fix | KQED

Last year's rolling blackouts exposed a host of statewide grid issues and poor planning, a cautionary tale as California heads into what promises to be another hot, dry summer.

www.kqed.org

 

[eevee-fan]

When the electrical utility company chooses different areas to shut power off because they can not supply enough electricity for all their customers in the state.
It differs from a brown out because it is a planned shutdown and not simply a drop in voltage

And it roams? Wow!

 

[AquaY]

And it roams? Wow!

You’re not as clever as you think.
Rolling/Roaming/Rotating. Blackouts/Outages.
The terms have all been used and mean the same thing.

 

[DrLOAC]

Hysterical.
Which state doesn‘t have clean water consistently?
Which state can no longer supply electricity consistently so they have roaming black outs?
Whcih state has a city where they issue a map of where the human feces is located?

Uh Texas for most of that. I didn’t just install a backup generator and get a gravity fed water filter for the hell of it.

 

[AquaY]

Uh Texas for most of that. I didn’t just install a backup generator and get a gravity fed water filter for the hell of it.

While Texas had that terrible mess with their grid due to the failure of their renewable energy generation in the cold it hasn’t been having planned shutdowns for years like California.
At least that hasn’t been in the news that I’ve ever read.
if I’m wrong please point me to some articles.

first I’ve heard of water problems other than irrigation for agriculture too.
is that a city issue?

 

[JRP3]

While Texas had that terrible mess with their grid due to the failure of their renewable energy generation in the cold

You want to explain how the improperly winterized wind power, which makes up only 20% of power production in Texas, caused the grid failure? Don't bother to try, the rest of us know it was the failure of coal, NG, and the isolated nature of the Texas grid which caused most of the problems.

Frozen wind turbines in Texas caused some conservative state politicians to declare Tuesday that the state was relying too much on renewable energy. But in reality, the wind power was expected to make up only a fraction of what the state had planned for during the winter.

No, frozen wind turbines aren’t the main culprit for Texas’ power outages

Lost wind power was expected to be a fraction of winter generation. All sources — from natural gas, to nuclear, to coal, to solar — have struggled to generate power during the storm that has left millions of Texans in the dark.

www.texastribune.org

 

[ohmman]

This state tribalism discussion is bizarre.