Climate Change / Global Warming Discussion

[DriverOne]

Here's a line chart ...

I don't grok the Y-axis of your second chart. 6.8 -> 10.9? The data has temps in the teens. I think you may have graphed a different month. When I chart July, the 30yr moving average appears smoother for the period, until it creeps up about a degree starting around the mid-1980s. We're about a degree warmer than where we started, by this data.

But of course there are people who spend their careers examining this and far more data, including possible causes, who have all come to the same inevitable conclusion.

 

[ohmman]

I don't grok the Y-axis of your second chart. 6.8 -> 10.9? The data has temps in the teens. I think you may have graphed a different month. When I chart July, the 30yr moving average appears smoother for the period, until it creeps up about a degree starting around the mid-1980s. We're about a degree warmer than where we started, by this data.

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But of course there are people who spend their careers examining this and far more data, including possible causes, who have all come to the same inevitable conclusion.

My second chart was the annual average. It was the last column in the data set.

 

[winfield100]

Typical alarmist tactic: attack the messenger when you can't attack the message - because it is TRUE, you know it, and you can't refute any of it.

By the way your alarmist heroes no doubt include:

• Greta Thunberg - autistic Swedish schoolgirl

See any "environmental scientists" on your AGW 'experts' list? Thought not.

@jrad6515
Do you have a "problem" with people with autism or on the autism spectrum?
do you even understand what you are complaining about?

 

[S'toon]

Apparently some people don't understand someone citing experts in their field, vs citing random cranks like retired accountants on the internet with no education in whatever they're pontificating on.

 

[jrad6515]

@jrad6515
Do you have a "problem" with people with autism or on the autism spectrum?

No but I have a problem with cowardly adults sending out crippled teenagers to spread their socialist propaganda for them. You should be appalled but obviously you are not since the end justifies the means in your warped world.

You anti-science zealots can't refute any of the facts I post so you focus on this kind of nonsense. Not exactly a big surprise.

 

[jrad6515]

Apparently some people don't understand someone citing experts in their field

Yeah like hydrologists, physicists, autistic schoolgirls, mathematicians, weathermen, cartoonists...oh wait...

 

[winfield100]

No but I have a problem with cowardly adults sending out crippled teenagers to spread their socialist propaganda for them. You should be appalled but obviously you are not since the end justifies the means in your warped world.

You anti-science zealots can't refute any of the facts I post so you focus on this kind of nonsense. Not exactly a big surprise.

@jrad6515
Doodly dude
I’m actually a scientist, married to a PhD scientist who sequenced 92,000 base pairs back in the 1990’s, (you had to sequence in both directions to confirm, noted that genes can code out in both directions but different proteins,
somewhere on the autism spectrum. I do find your constant harping on things you don’t understand to be tiresome at best, but check in to see if you are still here wasting time (yep)
Most of what I have seen you post before I “ignored you” is tripe wasting folks time.
Exactly what do you mean by “anti science zealots”.
You have been taken to task by many very patient folks explaining things to you, but there’s a point of uselessness you seem to have surpassed.

 

[ZsoZso]

I just quietly note, that @jrad6515 still has not been able to raise any objection (not even his usual ad hominem attacks) to the proof I posted that humans are causing the climate change. He was going on and on about how nobody can prove it, but somehow went totally silent for a while when I posted the proof. Now he is back spewing garbage, but still was not able to respond to my proof in any way or form.

As long as it stays this way I consider it a closed debate, he has accepted without objection my proof.

 

[SageBrush]

"Overall, 86% of Americans say they have at least “a fair amount” of confidence in scientists to act in the public interest.

I find this an odd question when it comes to science, and irrelevant when it come down to accepting what science tells us.

 

[Mader Levap]

You anti-science zealots

Projecting much? You are one protesting and denying established science findings. That you do not like these findings due to your nutty ideology is your problem.

can't refute any of the facts I post

I will enlighten you: word "facts" does not mean "anti-climate science propaganda youtube videos made by amateurs". No one treats seriously your tactic of flooding thread with bovine manure, ignoring everything that they say about said bovine manure and then announcing your victory.

 

[jrad6515]

@jrad6515
Doodly dude
I’m actually a scientist, married to a PhD scientist who sequenced 92,000 base pairs back in the 1990’s, (you had to sequence in both directions to confirm, noted that genes can code out in both directions but different proteins,
somewhere on the autism spectrum. I do find your constant harping on things you don’t understand to be tiresome at best, but check in to see if you are still here wasting time (yep)
Most of what I have seen you post before I “ignored you” is tripe wasting folks time.
Exactly what do you mean by “anti science zealots”.
You have been taken to task by many very patient folks explaining things to you, but there’s a point of uselessness you seem to have surpassed.

If you are such a great scientist (or maybe you're just riding your wife's coattails, lol) then why don't you try refuting any of the data that I post? You can't do that of course nor can any of the other anti-science zealots here.

 

[jrad6515]

Projecting much? You are one protesting and denying established science findings. That you do not like these findings due to your nutty ideology is your problem.



I will enlighten you: word "facts" does not mean "anti-climate science propaganda youtube videos made by amateurs". No one treats seriously your tactic of flooding thread with bovine manure, ignoring everything that they say about said bovine manure and then announcing your victory.

Project much? Why don't try refuting ANY of the data I post instead of spewing condescending nonsense. Answer: You can't refute any of my data so would rather deflect with ad hominems, etc. Typical clueless alarmist.

 

[jrad6515]

I just quietly note, that @jrad6515 still has not been able to raise any objection (not even his usual ad hominem attacks) to the proof I posted that humans are causing the climate change. He was going on and on about how nobody can prove it, but somehow went totally silent for a while when I posted the proof. Now he is back spewing garbage, but still was not able to respond to my proof in any way or form.

As long as it stays this way I consider it a closed debate, he has accepted without objection my proof.

So where is your 'proof' of AGW? You never posted it and now you are lying about it. I have been asking for this for months and none of you socialist zealots have had the balls to even try. So put it out there. I dare you. You would be the first if you do it, which of course you can't.

I can't wait to see your 'proof'. I'm getting my popcorn ready. This should be good, lol.

 

[jrad6515]

More proof that the imaginary AGW-induced catastrophic heat wave in Europe is a figment of hysterical alarmists' imaginations:

Meanwhile back in the USA we have had the COLDEST Jan.-July on record!

 

[SageBrush]

I will enlighten [him]:

Very, very doubtful. Just ignore that fool and lets continue the discussion along more productive paths

 

[ZsoZso]

So where is your 'proof' of AGW? You never posted it and now you are lying about it. I have been asking for this for months and none of you socialist zealots have had the balls to even try. So put it out there. I dare you. You would be the first if you do it, which of course you can't.

I can't wait to see your 'proof'. I'm getting my popcorn ready. This should be good, lol.

I posted it in this very thread when you were asking for it. Are you claiming that you have some kind of WOM - Write Only Memory, so you can only write but unable to read ?

BTW, you just made claims that are clearly obviously wrong AGAIN. You lied!
My proof is right here in this thread, yet you claim it isn't.
This is the same quality that is typical of all your posts. Obvious falsehoods.

 

[Unpilot]

You folks have a lot of patience.

 

[ohmman]

I posted it in this very thread when you were asking for it. Are you claiming that you have some kind of WOM - Write Only Memory, so you can only write but unable to read ?

BTW, you just made claims that are clearly obviously wrong AGAIN. You lied!
My proof is right here in this thread, yet you claim it isn't.
This is the same quality that is typical of all your posts. Obvious falsehoods.

I realized a while back that the person you're speaking to is wearing a false persona. Use the ignore button and avoid hitting "Show Ignored Content". You won't get alerts, see responses, or see quoted text from the individual. Alternatively, use the Report button on their inappropriate posts. I've avoided the latter since I'm a moderator and don't want to inject myself into a conflict of interest. But some of the rhetoric is clearly ban-worthy.

 

[S'toon]

I realized a while back that the person you're speaking to is wearing a false persona. Use the ignore button and avoid hitting "Show Ignored Content". You won't get alerts, see responses, or see quoted text from the individual. Alternatively, use the Report button on their inappropriate posts. I've avoided the latter since I'm a moderator and don't want to inject myself into a conflict of interest. But some of the rhetoric is clearly ban-worthy.

But if I ignored them I wouldn't know why I disagree with them.

 

[mspohr]

But if I ignored them I wouldn't know why I disagree with them.

You should have figured that out a long time ago.