Climate Change / Global Warming Discussion

[Raffy.Roma]

Record Global Temperatures and U.S. Billion-Dollar Disasters | Climate Central

2023 has been a record year for carbon pollution, global temperatures, and U.S. billion-dollar disasters

www.climatecentral.org

As the planet warms, many dangerous extreme events are becoming more frequent and intense.

The U.S. has experienced a record 25 billion-dollar weather and climate disasters so far in 2023.

The frequency of billion-dollar disasters has increased dramatically since 1980.

The average time between billion-dollar disasters in 2023 (through November) was just 10 days.

 

[Raffy.Roma]

Record Global Temperatures and U.S. Billion-Dollar Disasters | Climate Central

2023 has been a record year for carbon pollution, global temperatures, and U.S. billion-dollar disasters

www.climatecentral.org

As the planet warms, many dangerous extreme events are becoming more frequent and intense.

The U.S. has experienced a record 25 billion-dollar weather and climate disasters so far in 2023.

The frequency of billion-dollar disasters has increased dramatically since 1980.

The average time between billion-dollar disasters in 2023 (through November) was just 10 days.

So as you can see John Kerry is correct when he says that the Climate Change issue is really dangerous.

 

[Raffy.Roma]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1747030644327075929

Albert Einstein said to Marie Curie:

There have always been "reptiles" to deal with....

So don't care because of trolls dealing with climate science. Deniers will always bother us.

 

[ohmman]

Moderator Note: Tons of posts moved to Climate Change Denial. Many posts outright deleted.

 

[Raffy.Roma]

Moderator Note: Tons of posts moved to Climate Change Denial. Many posts outright deleted.

WELL DONE!

 

[Raffy.Roma]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1747279506279129118

The Special Presidential Envoy for Climate John Kerry is at the WEF24 (World Economic Forum) in Davos (Switzerland) to strengthen collaboration with private sector in order to keep 1.5 degrees of warming within reach. The future is in clean technologyies.

 

[Norbert]

What's wrong with this picture? (Hint: everything)

 

[Norbert]

Just a few more pixels...

 

[Raffy.Roma]

What's wrong with this picture? (Hint: everything)

View attachment 1009550

Actually the Temperature Deviation of 2023 calculated by Berkely Earth is even higher at 1.54C, with an accuracy of 0.06C, meaning that it could also be 1.6C.

 

[Norbert]

Actually the Temperature Deviation of 2023 calculated by Berkely Earth is even higher at 1.54C, with an accuracy of 0.06C, meaning that it could also be 1.6C.

1.54C "above the 1850-1900 average".

The NASA figure is "w.r.t. 1951 - 1980".

I don't know what the normalized difference would be. (Personally I'm looking more at the dynamic than the numbers themselves.)

 

[Raffy.Roma]

1.54C "above the 1850-1900 average".

The NASA figure is "w.r.t. 1951 - 1980".

I don't know what the normalized difference would be. (Personally I'm looking more at the dynamic than the numbers themselves.)

The Temperature Deviation is always calculated since 1880. In fact your graph of the Temperature Deviation starts from 1880.

 

[Raffy.Roma]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1747441107737391539

2023 HOTTEST YEAR IN 125,000 YEARS
TEMPERATURE DEVIATION +1.48°C
Experts agree that we have an explosive trend
1.5°C certain-obviously. 2°C will be 2040s

 

[Raffy.Roma]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1747513528322511299

TEMPERATURE DEVIATION IN PIPELINE 2.4°C because of all the GHGs in the atmosphere (atmospheric CO2 equivalent 560ppm today)

 

[Norbert]

The Temperature Deviation is always calculated since 1880. In fact your graph of the Temperature Deviation starts from 1880.

It does start 1880, but below 0.0. Whereas the Berkeley Earth graph is a tiny bit above 0 in 1880. Splitting hairs this is.

 

[Raffy.Roma]

It does start 1880, but below 0.0. Whereas the Berkeley Earth graph is a tiny bit above 0 in 1880. Splitting hairs this is.

Then this is the reason why the Temperature Deviation calculated by Berkely Earth is higher. Better like this. It means that the Global Temperature Deviation has still not overtaken the threshold of 1.5 degrees Celsius set by the Agreement of Paris.

 

[Norbert]

Then this is the reason why the Temperature Deviation calculated by Berkely Earth is higher. Better like this. It means that the Global Temperature Deviation has still not overtaken the threshold of 1.5 degrees Celsius set by the Agreement of Paris.

Well I just meant to say that the difference between the graphs is not as large as it may first seem. I wouldn't know which one is "better" in any sense. Considering that there are slight differences in how the data is averaged and all that (and the differences seem to fluctuate), it is likely that if one is interested specifically in the exact marker for 1.5C, these data collections and graphs won't all reach this point at the same time. So I don't want to be one to say we haven't already reached that point, at least by some valid accounts.

 

[Raffy.Roma]

Well I just meant to say that the difference between the graphs is not as large as it may first seem. I wouldn't know which one is "better" in any sense. Considering that there are slight differences in how the data is averaged and all that (and the differences seem to fluctuate), it is likely that if one is interested specifically in the exact marker for 1.5C, these data collections and graphs won't all reach this point at the same time. So I don't want to be one to say we haven't already reached that point, at least by some valid accounts.

Ok but you gave a good hint. Thank you.

 

[Raffy.Roma]

Albedo is the fraction of sunlight that is diffusely reflected by a body.
Global warming affects albedo this way.
An increase in global temperature causes snow and ice to melt, which decreases the extent to which they cover the surface, which then decreases Earth's albedo.
The more the albedo decreases the less sunlight is reflected in the space establishing a negative feedback loop that allows more energy coming from the sun to warm the Earth and be reflected as infrared rays rather than light rays.
Of course this way the Energy Imbalance due to the GHE increases.
In this tweet the graph of the Earth albedo since 2001 is reported.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1747248961172451748

 

[mspohr]

Tracking 2000 years of climate change

Climate scientist Ed Hawkins, creator of the warming stripes, put together a detailed graphic that tracks changes in the climate system alongside important milestones in human history, such as the invention of the steam engine and the discovery of global warming. “In every case, the recent changes are rapid and unusual compared to before human influence on the climate,” he says. Take a look:

 

[Raffy.Roma]

Greenland losing 30m tonnes of ice an hour, study reveals

Total is 20% higher than thought and may have implications for collapse of globally important north Atlantic ocean currents

www.theguardian.com

New shocking study.

The Greenland ice cap is losing an average of 30m tonnes of ice an hour due to the climate crisis, a study has revealed, which is 20% more than was previously thought.

Some scientists are concerned that this additional source of freshwater pouring into the north Atlantic might mean a collapse of the ocean currents called the Atlantic meridional overturning circulation (Amoc), of which Gulf Stream is a part, is closer to being triggered with severe consequences for humanity.

Think that the situation for what is concerning the Climate Change issue is getting really serious.