Confirmed that MCU3 (Ryzen) in 3/Y does NOT have a discrete GPU?

The 2022 holiday update is being rolled out. As part of the update, Steam gaming is brought to new S/X. Unfortunately 3/Y cannot run Steam games. Teslascope has confirmed that even the newest 3/Y with Ryzen CPU (aka MCU 3) does not have a discrete GPU.

I guess we can never game on our 3/Y...

 

[Braumin]

I sure wish I had the Ryzen. The older SoC drops so many frames. Even without a dGPU the Ryzen iGPU is pretty good.

 

[Perscitus]

In a few short months HW3.x/Ryzen combo will be considered legacy and feature dev will go into full on HW4/whateverCPU/GPU single stack mode.

What we need is more DRIVER and CAR software bells/whistles, less STEAM and indie games in Tesla. Thats what SFF PC builds pumping hundreds of fps via 10/12-bit color 120Hz+ 4/8K screens are for.

 

[father_of_6]

I sure wish I had the Ryzen. The older SoC drops so many frames. Even without a dGPU the Ryzen iGPU is pretty good.

I have the Atom processor... and everything ran very smooth until the v11 update. It's not the hardware that's the problem - it's that Tesla is now forcing the games to share resources with the rest of the UI so that you can access the climate controls via overlay while gaming (or some similar reason).

For the type of games we'll have in our cars, the Intel Atom processor really is sufficient... but Tesla doesn't seem to care about what things it breaks along the way.

 

[terranx]

The 2022 holiday update is being rolled out. As part of the update, Steam gaming is brought to new S/X. Unfortunately 3/Y cannot run Steam games. Teslascope has confirmed that even the newest 3/Y with Ryzen CPU (aka MCU 3) does not have a discrete GPU.

I guess we can never game on our 3/Y...

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I think green confirmed it some time ago. It seems like the very early Chinese Model Ys had the dGPU, but that might have been a case of them using the parts bin to sell as many cars as possible.

 

[Mrklaw]

APU isn’t great vs a discrete GPU but it’ll still play games on lower settings. Even just the BT controller support for the current games would be welcome

 

[Braumin]

I have the Atom processor... and everything ran very smooth until the v11 update. It's not the hardware that's the problem - it's that Tesla is now forcing the games to share resources with the rest of the UI so that you can access the climate controls via overlay while gaming (or some similar reason).

For the type of games we'll have in our cars, the Intel Atom processor really is sufficient... but Tesla doesn't seem to care about what things it breaks along the way.

v11 definitely did not help but even on v10 there were plenty of frame drops

 

[Ash83]

Not sure why we had to wait for this to be confirmed, the steam Ad was only put on the S/X pages on Tesla.com, I never seen it on the 3/y.

 

[KenC]

A discrete GPU never sounded likely since the power usage would be higher, no? If the car had one, you wouldn't need a heater, just run a game on Steam, and the whole cabin would be warmed up.

 

[terranx]

A discrete GPU never sounded likely since the power usage would be higher, no? If the car had one, you wouldn't need a heater, just run a game on Steam, and the whole cabin would be warmed up.

Even the most power hungry GPUs (which is not what this car would have) use 400W at load. It wouldn’t be a significant usage, especially since the times it would be in use are likely when parking.

 

[Ash83]

Even the most power hungry GPUs (which is not what this car would have) use 400W at load. It wouldn’t be a significant usage, especially since the times it would be in use are likely when parking.

Thats for a discrete PC grade level GPU. S/X was inline with what PS5 offer which is custom SOC from AMD at 200-220W

 

[freeAgent]

A discrete GPU never sounded likely since the power usage would be higher, no? If the car had one, you wouldn't need a heater, just run a game on Steam, and the whole cabin would be warmed up.

It would be possible to disable the dGPU when not gaming, but it is extremely wasteful to put a dGPU in a car that would only require it for gaming.

 

[Ash83]

It would be possible to disable the dGPU when not gaming, but it is extremely wasteful to put a dGPU in a car that would only require it for gaming.

it is not an issue of disabling it as that is how every GPU/CPU works, when its doing nothing it is idle and will withdraw minuscule amount of power. it is only because Tesla wanted to save $$ for 3/Y

 

[nero71]

I find this odd as Musk has been going on about Steam for a while, seems odd that the computers in the new Y's were not able to use it.
Maybe he just found out, he is obviously all over the place and maybe just found out himself.
Would be easier to add an HDMI to his cars and allow ps5 to be attached, probably cheaper to

 

[terranx]

This is one of those things Tesla could easily offer as a retrofit to Ryzen 3s/Ys if they really wanted

 

[papatonight]

I am not fan of video games but it sure is good to have feature

 

[dmurphy]

it is only because Tesla wanted to save $$ for 3/Y

There's a small price difference between 3/Y and S/X. Maybe related?

 

[ELETRO]

Elon i've a EVGA gtx1080 can you at least add PCIe for my intel MYP? then i can play some real game.. we need retrofit!

 

[Cain Pian]

Although there is no discrete GPU, Steam also has a lot of 2D games

 

[Knightshade]

APU isn’t great vs a discrete GPU but it’ll still play games on lower settings. Even just the BT controller support for the current games would be welcome

The mobile-app and retro games we've previously had? Sure.

The modern Steam stuff like CP2077? Not so much.

Even the most power hungry GPUs (which is not what this car would have) use 400W at load.

600 nowadays, and higher with transient spikes- but yeah the car wouldn't need anything remotely like that, esp. given the relatively "low" resolution of the screen