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Current S60 owners - how’s battery/ supercharging?

Discussion in 'Model S: Battery & Charging' started by SilverSp33d3r, Nov 9, 2018.

  1. SilverSp33d3r

    SilverSp33d3r Member

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    I’ve bought a Dec2014 S60 in September of 2017.
    When I purchased the vehicle at ~58k miles it charged to 202 Miles full. I was able to supercharge from 15 % to 90% in roughly 45 mins. Road trips did not require much additional time charging.

    Now, at 72k miles my full range is 187, with supercharging from 15-90% taking 15 mins longer. My charging taper seems to be SOC + kW charge rate = 95-98.
    Total capacity in my battery seems to be 53kWh.

    I compared my times on empty stations with ambient temperatures at the same 69 degrees.

    I’m just curious to know how any other owners with similar cars/ miles are doing regarding performance of supercharging/ full range?
     
  2. Rifleman

    Rifleman Now owns 2 Model S's!!!

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    I have to classic S 60's.

    The 2013 is at 87,000 miles, and its 90% charge is currently sits at 177
    The 2014 is at 88,000 miles, and its 90% charge is currently sits at 181, although it had a warranty battery replacement at 40k miles.

    If the cars are below 40% state of charge, they both supercharge in the 90-100 kw range. Once they get to 40%, they drop to around 50 kw, and above 60%, they drop to 30 kwh. By 80% we are down to 20, and above 90 we are around 10.

    a 15-90% charge is probably close to a 90 minute charge for us, on both cars. definitely makes long road trips a bit more difficult.

    I am pretty happy with how the batteries are aging from a capacity standpoint, but the supercharger rates are definitely slowing down over time for us.
     
  3. SilverSp33d3r

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    I completely agree the capacity seems to be pretty stable compared to my previous EVs, however it is interesting that even with less capacity the charging takes longer. Initially I thought supercharging was hindered when range mode was turned on but it appears the change I saw was not due to range mode.
     
  4. Rifleman

    Rifleman Now owns 2 Model S's!!!

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    My assumption is that they tweaked the supercharging taper rates through software on the classic 60's. I know alot of early 60 packs had very bad range degradation (my 2014's origonal pack was down to 159 @ 90% when they replaced it, although it was replaced for a different issue). If high charge rates latter in the charge cycle were hurting the 60, it would make sense to change the rates through software.
     
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    An additional data point for those wondering about battery life with the "classic" S60; my 2013 S has 119,500 miles (original battery, replaced drive unit) 100% charge now registers 183 miles rated range.
     
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    What was the range of S60 classic brand new at 100%?
     
  7. SilverSp33d3r

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  8. SilverSp33d3r

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    Was able to finally connect using TM-Spy, battery now has 53.9 KWH remaining. I guess I shouldn’t complain that’s about 10% degregation over 74,000 miles. If only charging speeds could maintain like they used to.
     

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    Same car, same miles, same supercharging performance, slightly higher range (around 190).
     
  10. SilverSp33d3r

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    Recently I gained access to the BMS thru TM-Spy. I’ve found my 50% battery indicator to show 29kWh remaining in the pack however the % shown by the car and TM-Spy is off by 3-4%, has anyone seen this before?
     

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