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Cybertruck is a scam.
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jebinc
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Exactly. I have an Austin 4680 MY (actually, the wife does). No issues with it, BUT, it doesn't charge like my MS Plaid does with difference cell chemistry and cell form factor.
FastEddieB
Member
I depreciate our vehicles at the end of every year. Most of our vehicles are older - a 2005 Element, a 2006 Ridgeline and a 2011 Ford Flex - and depreciate little, if at all, year over year. I think the Element actually went up a tiny bit in value in the last year. Of course, that was NOT the case for our 2022 M3LR bought in Feb 2022. OUCH!!!
Then again, we've put 54,000 mies on it, traveling many highway miles, north as far as Ottawa and south as far as Key West, with maybe a dozen other FL trips and trips to IN and MD and coastal NC. It's been the most exhilarating and fun-to-drive car we've ever owned. The depreciation is what it is, but as Karen and I like to say, we have no egrets!
jebinc
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And it's even worse if you purchased a 2021 Plaid, as I foolishly did. Yes, "Founder's CT" purchased early will take a large depreciation hit in the next year or so - if for no other reason than the later ones will have many changes incorporated (same happened with the 2021 refreshed S/X lines.
You are so right. Manufacturer price gouging is way worse. Jeep is going through the same thing. Jeep has raised prices like 20+% over the last three years and now they are feeling some serious pain.
After those first ~50K or so gotta have it now "FOMO" people get their Cybertruck Founders Editions, the values are going to absolute fall off a cliff.
jebinc
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Just like they did with the refreshed 2021 Model S/X/Plaid - still falling like a stone in a vacuum.
Agreed. The scam was never with Elon going to “direct sales”, The 70,s, 80’s and 90’s, let alone up until now, why is it the most gas cars drop sizably after being driven off the car lot historically? You really think those car salesman making pretty darn good bucks, weren’t part of that scam?
I will admit that Elon is not real good at predicting when the next charging station will go live or when those of us in the front end of the CT line will get their new truck, probably 2025 or 2026, but who cares? I’m driving my old 2016 X, which has plenty of “bells”, but not all the “whistles” and free lifetime charging. Thanks Uncle Elon.
Yes, I am looking forward to all of the kinks getting worked out before I get my CT. Getting FSD on the cheap (er) at $7K, seems fair and shows that the supply and demand marketplace, almost always works itself out. I’m not pleased or excited about the recent price increase or the drop in CT range, but I sure as heck trust Tesla, a whole lot more than Ford, GM or Chrysler.
jebinc
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Not class leading, or “as advertised,” previously, by the Great Charlatan, either.
JamesG
Member
Right on. Love my 2016 dinosaur X. Thank you Elon. You really know how to make a car. Service has been exceptional.
My Chevy 3500 s..ks
Gladly gave $1,000 to get a beast, hopefully this year
My 2012 Ford Expedition beats your Chevy, any day. Bought it loaded for $67K, just 12 years after my 2000 Eddie Bauer 2000 Expedition for $36K. That really s…s. How did that $30k price increase happen? Should have gone to a more reputable auto dealer or perhaps VA/MD/DC and gotten a better deal.
Now that I hear that the CT, is a lot like the Model X, in terms of how it drives, but we already know that a CT (especially 3 motor) and an X, has to be “apples vs oranges”, I will take whatever Elon offers when my number is called in 2025. For $80K or less- I’m all in. Ford, GM or Chevy? Never, ever, again.
Remember this is Gen 2 4680
They will then do 3a hybrid dry cell in 2024Q4, plus 10% range
And then pure dry cell 2025Q4, plus 10% range
Steps are
2024Q1 now 340 miles range
2024Q4 ~380 miles
2025Q4 ~410 miles
For a new battery tech
Not bad
Those timelines can't be trusted. Obviously Tesla will try to make improvements, but are already severely behind on the 4680. As Elon said, "Making batteries is hard".
MikeChicago
Member
I see lots of criticism but none of them addressed the points raised by the OP and he/she made several excellent points.
On the plus side, I got an extra $1,000 off our new Model X and I’m keeping my order for the Cybertruck in place. Let’s see how things go…
On the plus side, I got an extra $1,000 off our new Model X and I’m keeping my order for the Cybertruck in place. Let’s see how things go…
MikeChicago
Member
Keep both, if able. In my case, I would probably trade in the Y and keep the X (both are 2023) or keep both and add the Cybertruck. Depends on trade in values and mileage at the time of order
jebinc
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