This is going to be good….
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using the "wrong" charging stall. lol. joke aside... once you can charge nearly all EVs at the superior Supercharger network... the options when buying an EV open up massively. Especially with comparable EVs starting to be priced ~Tesla prices (Ioniq 6 vs. Model 3 ; Lightning vs. Cybertruck , EQE vs. Model S and so on)
This is going to be good….
using the "wrong" charging stall. lol. joke aside... once you can charge nearly all EVs at the superior Supercharger network... the options when buying an EV open up massively. Especially with comparable EVs starting to be priced ~Tesla prices (Ioniq 6 vs. Model 3 ; Lightning vs. Cybertruck , EQE vs. Model S and so on)
difficult to tell what you mean by this. are you being ironic, are you pleased?
This is going to be good….
difficult to tell what you mean by this. are you being ironic, are you pleased?
didn't Elon try to get everyone on the same page from day 1... but everyone is greedy and now they're a decade behind on charging ports...?
I have to counterpoint a few things here. Insurance could be more, especially for something like the Cybertruck. But, that's not always the case. While we bounce around a bit between insurers, our Tesla Model S and Model 3 have had okay insurance prices.
Tires have not been an issue. No noticeable lifetime difference from other cars I've had. I don't know, maybe it would be different if you compared it to say a minivan or some other bland boring car. But comparing it to other cars I've owned, like a 2011 Mustang GT, the tires last at least as long. Some of that is just in how you drive it. If you are taking advantage of that 3 second 0-60 all the time, sure, the tires will wear out more quickly than on a typical car.
Higher maintenance costs is not a thing. My EVs have needed almost zero maintenance. The only maintenance has been on silly tech things like the extending door handles on the Model S that like to fail.
If you mostly charge at home, the cost per mile definitely beats gasoline. It's only when you compare to the overpriced CCS fast chargers out there that the fuel costs look bad (0.48 per kWh vs 0.12 per kWh is an enormous difference; imagine if you could put gasoline in your car at home for $3 per gallon, but the gas station was charging $12 per gallon). Those prices are a concern for now, but should become cheaper in time when the infrastructure becomes more common.
Setting up L2 charging at home can cost a bit in some cases, but at least it's just a one time cost. Once it's there, it's always there.
Higher registration costs is a thing, but I hate to hold that against EVs. It's only a thing because anti-EV politicians are trying to tax the hell out of EVs (because Republicans love to tax people? The recent major increases in fees and taxes in Missouri was sponsored by a Republican in St. Louis), resulting in EVs costing 2x, 4x or more compared to the gas taxes that the increased registration fees are supposed to cover for.
Depreciation is probably a real issue that will continue for some time. The long term good news there is it's largely just fear driven. People are afraid they will need to replace expensive batteries every 5 years. Once it becomes commonplace to see 20 year old EVs driving around on their original batteries, I think that fear will subside and depreciation will no longer be an issue.
Long story short, there are some negatives to EVs right now, but there are benefits as well. And everything is on track to continue to improve to where I think EVs will match or exceed gas cars in all areas within the next 20 years. But if you want to wait until that becomes a reality, I completely understand that. I'll take the few negatives for now because I can afford it, see the long term benefits, and want to support the technology. It's got a bright future, but granted it is still a work in progress right now. Though perhaps not as bad as you think.
seems that you've caught up quick!didn't Elon try to get everyone on the same page from day 1... but everyone is greedy and now they're a decade behind on charging ports...?
didn't Elon try to get everyone on the same page from day 1... but everyone is greedy and now they're a decade behind on charging ports...?
2. my EVs definitely have cost me less in maintenance than my Prius. and the Prius is the most reliable, nearly maintenance free, inexpensive to maintain vehicle on the planet (maybe an exaggeration, maybe not?). and the Rav4 EV and the i3 REX have had essentially 0 maintenace expenses (excluding tires and alignments, which are necessary for any car). even brake pads, never had to do any of them after a total 130k miles between the two of them in the last 4 years.You made some valid points except they really don't address my post very directly.
2) ICE vehicles are very reliable and nearly maintenance free. The reality is that EVs do in fact cost more to maintain and operate currently than ICE vehicles, statistically speaking.
4) Assuming you never move again, yah setting up home charging is a 1x cost. What percent of people do you think will never move again in the rest of their driving days? I'd say less than 5%. It's also enough of a cost for the charging upgrades at some homes, that it would pay for gas for an economy car for several years outright.
6) I don't know if the very high EV depreciation (Teslas depreciated 30% in 2022, highest in the industry) is fear driven as much as technology driven. I think most consumers keep thinking there is going to be a big jump in battery tech and are waiting for that. I personally think it's going to be 10+ years for any substantial improvements (say 35% improvement in the same weight/ volume).
7) I'm not really 'waiting' for EVs to get better but instead just choosing the best fit for me personally. At this time that's my Powerboost F150 hybrid and the next will likely be the Ram Charger with the on-board generator or instead an additional car, that would be an EV which would not be a money saver, but just lots of fun.
~ take care
2) ICE vehicles are very reliable and nearly maintenance free.