It should be irreversible, otherwise you'd just buy the upgrade during winter months and wanted seat warmers, and then downgrade it in the summer.
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Day of judgement is coming and I'm disappointed in the 3SR owners.
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It should be irreversible, otherwise you'd just buy the upgrade during winter months and wanted seat warmers, and then downgrade it in the summer.
destructure00
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Then the whining will just shift to how the sticker doesn't match the delivered car configuration.
I've been on various brand car forums for nearly 20 years and the Tesla consumer group is the biggest group of whiners and nitpickers I've ever seen by a large margin (the LS1 GTO group was probably second...nothing like a group of people with $35k cars that act like they are exotics
). Tesla can't win....the goalposts are forever moving. I'd guess it's part of the reason why they don't seem to try very hard.
Selective hearing. People heard what they wanted to hear and when they heard what was the likely truth, they went to find another answer.
I won't call it the day of judgement but rather Cinderella day.
Pretty soon we'll see all those car starting to have an orange glow (mostly on the roof) before they turn into a pumpkin !
(Sorry, I couldn't help myself).
Pretty soon we'll see all those car starting to have an orange glow (mostly on the roof) before they turn into a pumpkin !
(Sorry, I couldn't help myself).
Here’s a point I didn’t bring up:
What about the bonafide SR+ purchasers? If someone was going to have a grievance, it would be them.
They bought SR+ mainly because they wanted an upgraded interior as the top consideration.
Since all SR cars have it, they would rightfully feel their premium didn’t buy them the premium product they expected.
That’s why SR owners (like myself) need to STFU and stop being spoiled entitled brats.
What about the bonafide SR+ purchasers? If someone was going to have a grievance, it would be them.
They bought SR+ mainly because they wanted an upgraded interior as the top consideration.
Since all SR cars have it, they would rightfully feel their premium didn’t buy them the premium product they expected.
That’s why SR owners (like myself) need to STFU and stop being spoiled entitled brats.
Huh? The SR+ folks got exactly the interior they were expecting.
The fact that others have that interior has no - ZERO - bearing whatsoever on their purchase. They got what Tesla said they'd get ... and that's the only thing that's relevant. If others got lucky and got a "free" upgrade - then, so be it. That's still got nothing to do with the SR+ owner. The petulant child whining "He has a bigger slice than me!!" drives me absolutely 100% bonkers.
SaddleSC
Member
I am in a different boat...it doesn’t really bother me what features other people have or don’t have access to, but I did buy the SR+ upgrade with Autopilot and still received the email that my car would be downgraded. My fear is that my VIN is not logged into their system correctly and I am going to lose the features I actually paid for. I am concerned about the hassle that will ensue trying to sort it out.
So much anger in these threads. I don’t get it. We are here to discuss Teslas, not to attack people who have a different point of view from our own. Way too much testosterone on this forum.
Surprised Monroney didn’t foresee the day when cars would be substantially altered by software via the Internet post-sale. Typical short sighted 1953 politician.
anthonyj
Stonks
Tesla should refund the full purchase price to SR owners and let them keep the car. No, actually give them a roadster delivered by Elon. This is madness. How could Tesla do this. Bad company bad
groovidad
Living the Dream!
I respect your viewpoint and I wish things were that simple.
Problem with standing for everything is standing for nothing.
To me there is no grey area for Tesla pulling back SR+ features from SR cars.
I question the morals and worldview of anyone who wants to justify otherwise.
Hiding being monroney stickers might put you on the right legally but that in my opinion is small consolation for being a scum bag.
notAnExpert
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I agree. Some folks seem pretty quick to sell their souls for a tiny bit of monetary gain. Every so often, our fellow Tesla owners make me think about Marge Gunderson’s quote from Fargo.
And for what? For a little bit of money. There’s more to life than a little money, you know. Don’t you know that? And here ya are, and it’s a beautiful day. Well, I just don’t understand it.
You pay for what you get. Folks need not complain if you pay for SR and received SR+ and now actually getting SR software. Pay up if you want it.
It’s not about standing for something. Anyone who reads my posts knows exactly where I stand on both Tesla’s products and the way they operate their company. I’ve just learned as I get older that when I seek to put down other people who view things differently than me it really only reflects negatively on me and I’d rather not go there. As Michelle Obama stated, when they go low, we go high.
I agree with you in principle however It’s a little more grey here for SR+ purchasers.
Two buyers. Each one contemplates between SR and SR+.
One decides to be very economical and goes with cloth seats and solid roofs.
The other decides to invest in the glass roof and leather interior.
Guy who orders + gets his car on Sunday. He super because he got what he paid for.
Guy who orders non plus gets his car on Monday. He feels super duper because he got MORE than what he paid for. Like 2 levels more than what he paid for. Partial Premium interior AND SR+ range, performance and other features.
While the SR+ owner has no legal standing to complain on Monday, the SR+ owner is human. They are going to feel bad and it’s not great perception and optics from Tesla.
It’s wasted energy and emotion for the SR+ buyer to complain but if someone wanted to complain they can at least rationalize it.
SR buyers who got two extra slices and pouting over giving back 1 are scum bags.
If my daughters date showed up at my door complaining his 3SR was getting nerfed, I’d throw his ass out immediately.
The date thinking negatively on me is of less concern to me than having my successive generation raised by entitled, morally flexible whiners with no principles.
You negotiate with people who go high and you fight the people who go low. There’s no one size fits all approach.
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Zhelko Dimic
Careful bull
Then the whining will just shift to how the sticker doesn't match the delivered car configuration.
I've been on various brand car forums for nearly 20 years and the Tesla consumer group is the biggest group of whiners and nitpickers I've ever seen by a large margin (the LS1 GTO group was probably second...nothing like a group of people with $35k cars that act like they are exotics
You're correct. However, I think it's normal that $35K car buyers feel most entitled.
I knows I felt lot more entitled in 2003, when I bought my first BMW (entry level, zero options! $35K), then nowadays.
I feel this is part of natural progression of achieving some success in career, but not having yet enough self-confidence, maturity, means and life experience to look at things objectively, rather than through the 'me-me-me' prism.
In 2003, I though I was a hotshot, even-though I was just a selfish and myopic ass... at the start of first real successes in my career. You should've seen hell I've given dealer for telling me car was basic, and then it turned out it had upgraded wheels... And I felt very righteous. So silly. Same thing with todays claims of 'Tesla told me...' or 'Munroe sticker ...'.
Not that I was right then, or SR owners are right now, but it's kinda understandable based on the human psychology.
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