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Does dual motor make a big difference in terms of power, enjoyment, etc?

Discussion in 'Model 3: Driving Dynamics' started by CoryARamirez, Dec 30, 2019.

  1. CoryARamirez

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    Hey all,

    I'm currently debating picking up a used 2019 Long Range RWD M3 (before dual motor was standard in long range) or a new 2020 AWD Dual Motor. I've driven the LR RWD before, but never dual. I live in California so any perks from AWD/DM would be strictly pleasure. I like to feel power when I drive, but I know the LR RWD has plenty of it. Is there a big difference between the two?
     
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    If you’re a power guy, then definitely get the dual motor. You won’t be disappointed. In fact I’d even go for the performance if it’s in your budget. I’ve never driven the RWD but there definitely a difference in power between RWD and dual motor. And of course the other obvious benefits.
     
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    Is there a difference between Dual Motor & Performance, in terms of power? Or just the lower suspension, trim, and track mode?
     
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    #4 C141medic, Dec 30, 2019
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    Dual motor and performance versions do have different 0-60 times by about a second or so. I paid 60K+ for my dual motor last year and now the performance variants are very close in price. They were about 10K difference in price last year.

    Performance vs. Regular Dual Motor | Tesla

    What Is A Sleeper Or Stealth Tesla Model 3 Performance? | CleanTechnica
     
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  5. Pkmmte

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    HUGE difference between single motor and dual motor. Trust me, I wish I had waited every time I punch it in my LR RWD, reminded of when I drove AWD models. :(

    Performance is also noticeable between dual motor and performance, but nowhere near as huge of a difference as RWD and AWD.
     
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    Before the 0-60 time for the dual motor when I got my rwd LR was 4.5 secs. Not a big difference imho from the 5.0 sec time for my car. But with the software update, its a game changer. 3.4 sec 0 to 60 is awesome. I think I would go with awd if I could do this over again.
     
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    i think it depends on how you plan to use your car. I use my Model 3 mainly for commuting, where 0 - 60 isn't very useful. So, the LR RWD works for me. That said, I've heard, though never seen, passing/overtaking speed is better on AWD than RWD. I don't know if they're all that different from 60 - 75, or 70 - 85. Not sure if anyone here can comment on this.
     
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    Passing speed is a lot better on DM.

    The P is still significantly quicker 0-60 over the DM, but they're nearly identical after that (especially if you do the $2000 acceleration unlock)...and this is confirmed by the 1/4 mile trap speeds of both.... the LR RWD is much slower in this regard.

    If you're used to a civic or something any of em will be quick as hell, so it's a matter of perspective.


    For context these are roughly the 0-60 times and 1/4 mile times for all 3+ versions, all of them include rollout (Tesla dishonestly does NOT measure the P the same as the others, I've removed that from these numbers)

    LR RWD- ~4.7 seconds, 1/4 mile ~ [email protected] (note I don't have results post-second-5% bump so might be slightly better now)

    LR AWD ~3.9 seconds, 1/4 mile ~12.3 at 115-116

    LR AWD+ (AWD with $2000 update)- ~3.5 seconds, 1/4 mile [email protected]~116-117

    P: ~3.0 seconds, 1/4 mile [email protected]~116-117
     
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  9. OCR1

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    The AWD does not make a lot of sense for Southern California folks. We don’t need the extra traction control here. I would either save money and go with a used LR RWD or try and get a stealth Performance car. I just couldn’t justify the spread in price at the time between RWD and AWD for the extra .5 seconds of speed. And if you are going to spend the extra $2k for acceleration boost why not just buy a Stealth for the same price.
     
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  10. Daniel in SD

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    If you ever go up to the snow having AWD allows you to not be forced to put on chains in most conditions.
    If I had to choose today I'd get the Performance (since it's way cheaper now than when I bought). I'd get a new SR+ over and an old LR. Lighter, more nimble, more efficient, and supposedly the cars coming out of the factory today are quieter.
     
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  11. Mr. Burrito

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    List the cars you've owned that you thought were fast or at least acceptable, performance-wise, from your perspective. It's all relative.
     
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    I had a RWD and it was a great car but when Performance came out, my irrational need for faster won over and I traded (after 6mos 6500 miles).

    Acceleration unsurprisingly much quicker, also nose feels heavier (but not too bad) in comparison. Range not as good due to a number of things not least of which is the increased weight of my right foot.

    If you can test drive all the options, that's the best way to determine what you like best.
     
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  13. CCIE

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    I love my LR RWD. Plenty of power and it has the longest real-world range of any Tesla ever sold.
     
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    I have an RWD. With the minimal price difference between what I paid and what teh AWD could be had for just 2 days after I picked up my car, I would probably pick the AWD. RWD acceleration is there but not jolting like AWD. I do like that the range is further with RWD but the latest AWD have improved the range to 322 (probably better power management)
     
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    this is the correct answer. your 0-60 times will mean nothing in stop and go traffic, esp in CA. highway passing and at-cruise speeds are where people need to pay more attention. everything else is just "bragging". keep an eye on the torque curves where the power drops off at higher speeds in the posts where people have dyno'd these cars.

    before the recent 5% power gain, i felt like the RWD was flat on the highway, similar to an automatic. afterwards, the power is much more linear and i have confidence passing at speeds 70+.

    the feel of the SR+ is that of any sporty sedan with at least 350hp, with no hesitation in power delivery.
     
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    Except for the fact that the long-range now only comes as dual motor configuration. (new)
     
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    Whereas I live in Los Angeles and use my Performance every minute of every drive.
     
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  19. LACALawyer

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    Says you...I use my Performance at every stop light, every pass, on the highway, off the highway, hell, even parking....when you're a highly-skilled driver you find a use for the extra power ALL the time.
     
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    If you want a faster car, buy the faster car. That’s really what it comes down to.
     
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