Doing the unthinkable. Looking at a non-Tesla to replace my S.

[MSullivan]

My main complaint about my S is phantom drain.
It loses about a percent a day while in my garage.
My wife's Kia Soul EV, by contrast, sits at 80% charged for weeks.
Does anyone have phantom drain experience with the newer EV models hitting the road?
Particularly the Mustang Mach E.

 

[Two-rocks]

Our egolf with an unmanaged (heated/cooled) battery had no drain for an extended time.

Not sure on our Tesla. We drive it often, and have a huge surplus of electricity (solar).

The money you are planning to spend on a car rarely driven to escape phantom drain issues is puzzling. Just leave it plugged in?

 

[Double-O]

Lol

 

[MSullivan]

Our egolf with an unmanaged (heated/cooled) battery had no drain for an extended time.

Not sure on our Tesla. We drive it often, and have a huge surplus of electricity (solar).

The money you are planning to spend on a car rarely driven to escape phantom drain issues is puzzling. Just leave it plugged in?

I am not replacing it because of it, I am shopping cars and the drain is a mark against.
It almost feels like there is something wrong with it, even when the garage is 72 degrees it is humming and making noises.

 

[jjrandorin]

Model 3s lost 2-3 miles a day as long as they are not accessed with the tesla app, summon standby is off, Sentry mode is off, and they are not woken up by third party app polling.

If you have home charging, this is an absolute non issue 2-3 miles a day is nothing as far as energy usage, and you wont need to run sentry mode in your garage.

if you dont have home charging or need to use sentry mode all the time, at that point its not "phantom" drain (which means you dont know where it comes from), its "Im keeping the car awake with sentry mode" drain, so either dont do that, buy a dedicated dashcam and install it, or buy an EV that doesnt have that feature (which is the exact same thing as not using it on a model 3).

There is nothing "unthinkable" about replacing one car with another, and certainly nothing wrong with considering some other brand car. We dont marry cars or car brands "till death do we part", so I dont get this thread title, other than a desire to make people click on it.

 

[Double-O]

In his defense, majority of tesla owners are like apple product owners. Should you speak of switching to an android platform or in this case, another brand car, it's unthinkable to brand loyal owners.

 

[smogne41]

I don't have first hand experience with one, but I have heard that the Porsche Taycan also has much lower phantom drain than any Tesla ( ~1% over 10 days or less). Also has a steering wheel, which some of us consider very important

 

[RSpanner]

I do not know how to solve your drain problem. On the other hand, there will be a pletora of New EV's coming onto the market very soon. Love my Model 3, but love to look at what's coming....https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=StjRZzXCO8s

 

[MSullivan]

As an update.
Yes I rarely drive, I am retired.
I charged my S to 81% on November 29.
For the next six days it was not driven and the charger was attached to my wife's Kia Soul EV because she drove it a few times over that time period.
Last night I attached the charger to the S and this morning I see that it in those six days, with it sitting in the garage, I added 15.85 kWhs at a cost of $3.31 (pricey electricity in New England).
That means my model S uses $15 worth of electricity a month doing nothing.
Yes $15 is nothing considering the cost of the car.
But Elon is trying to save the planet and burning almost 80 kWhs a month for nothing, is unacceptable.

 

[DriveMe]

Have you replaced the 12v battery yet? It may cause the extra drain at the end of its lifespan. Also, if you have Sentry mode enabled when you park, that will consume a lot.

 

[MSullivan]

Have you replaced the 12v battery yet? It may cause the extra drain at the end of its lifespan. Also, if you have Sentry mode enabled when you park, that will consume a lot.

My car is a 2016 so no sentry mode available. The 12 volt battery was replaced once under warranty when it showed up as bad. I have it in energy saving mode and I don't ping it with request.

 

[bobby g]

I am not replacing it because of it, I am shopping cars and the drain is a mark against.
It almost feels like there is something wrong with it, even when the garage is 72 degrees it is humming and making noises.

It's alive! I sat in the garage and listened to an upgrade once - Christine came to mind

 

[30seconds]

definitely check that Sentry mode is off at home. this can be an automatic setting.

 

[Ormond]

My car is a 2016 so no sentry mode available. The 12 volt battery was replaced once under warranty when it showed up as bad. I have it in energy saving mode and I don't ping it with request.

I would check your settings for summons standby. Would the connection with your home WiFi use much energy? What’s your settings for updates?

 

[daktari]

No phantom drain to report on either ID.4, I-pace or e-tron I have owned.

 

[thefortunes]

That is too much drain. Something is keeping your car awake.

Do you leave the fob in it (or nearby - even in the house if it is by the door it can be too close)? In your pocket and you walk by the car?

 

[Calliope]

There are lots of good EV options if you don't need the Supercharger network for long trips. If I didn't need the Superchargers, I might be looking at the Jaguar, Polestar, or Mercedes.

 

[LoudMusic]

I don't think you would see that kind of drain on a new Tesla. That's right around 111w drain by my quick math. Basically a couple incandescent bulbs.

That said, you've had "a" Tesla experience. If you did it again you'd certainly have a different Tesla experience. But having a different manufacturer's experience could be pretty fun too. I'd very much like to have a Rivian SUV, or maybe truck. I think that'll be our next vehicle possibly even before we're done with the Model Y.

There's no harm in exploring options.

 

[MSullivan]

definitely check that Sentry mode is off at home. this can be an automatic setting.

2016, no sentry mode available.

 

[MSullivan]

That is too much drain. Something is keeping your car awake.

Do you leave the fob in it (or nearby - even in the house if it is by the door it can be too close)? In your pocket and you walk by the car?

Key fob is hanging by the door to the house. I will bring it inside for a week or so.