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UkNorthampton
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There were going to be trials in UK of either pure hydrogen or fossil gas/hydrogen (5% maybe) for domestic heating boilers. I think they've all been abandoned, but not sure. Fossil fuel industry very keen on use of {$colour} hydrogen as a fig leaf. Green, blue, grey, black, pink, exploding orange or a nice crimson.
Ellesmere Port hydrogen heating trial scrapped after protests
Residents were uneasy about their natural gas supply being replaced with pure hydrogen from 2025.
www.bbc.com
That's one that was scrapped.
UkNorthampton
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Yeah, there were a number announced, generally the cancellations aren't featured in the fossil fuel-advert driven media.Ellesmere Port hydrogen heating trial scrapped after protests
Residents were uneasy about their natural gas supply being replaced with pure hydrogen from 2025.
That's one that was scrapped.
Generally, Fossil Fuel lobbyists have won over the hearts (wallets) of the current UK government members.
1 or 2 places including Fife. Still on government website, needed/needs legislation - so might fail to happen.
Hydrogen boiler push to continue despite verdict of UK watchdog RECENT - 21 October 2023
These was a proposal for a 1500 acre Solar Farm near Brownsville,Oregon last July, 2023. Brownsville is a small town in the willamette Valley and about 30 miles north of Eugene,Oregon. Most of the valley is into producing grass seed, and is the largest grass seed producing area in the world. ( locals call it farming, I do not) The proposal has been stalled because of the massive pushback from local people involved in grass seed production. It is a very politically conservative area.I do not think it will go forward.
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Proposed Muddy Creek solar park gets Brownsville audience worked up
Locals decry the potential loss of farmland if the state approves a 2.5-mile solar array in south Linn County.
Proposed plan to build solar power farm near Brownsville faces opposition
Residents living near the community of Brownsville are opposed to a large solar farm proposal.
mspohr
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Freedumb to do what I want but not for you.These was a proposal for a 1500 acre Solar Farm near Brownsville,Oregon last July, 2023. Brownsville is a small town in the willamette Valley and about 30 miles north of Eugene,Oregon. Most of the valley is into producing grass seed, and is the largest grass seed producing area in the world. ( locals call it farming, I do not) The proposal has been stalled because of the massive pushback from local people involved in grass seed production. It is a very politically conservative area.I do not think it will go forward.
Proposed Muddy Creek solar park gets Brownsville audience worked up
Locals decry the potential loss of farmland if the state approves a 2.5-mile solar array in south Linn County.
Proposed plan to build solar power farm near Brownsville faces opposition
Residents living near the community of Brownsville are opposed to a large solar farm proposal.
mspohr
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Solar energy could power all health facilities in poorer countries and save lives, experts say
Move would cost less than $5bn and cut toll of deaths from power outages and lack of supply, Cop28 delegates will hear
www.theguardian.com
Before we implemented the solar energy system the mortality rate in [one of our hospitals] was between 35 and 45 per 1,000 deliveries [of babies],” said Mohammed Gana of Niger state’s health ministry, a former colleague of Amadi. “Now we’re hovering between 10 and 15.”
Most Rail Is Already Electric And All Will Be Even In North America
India's rail is 85%+ electrified. China's 72%+. Europes' 60% plus. Japan is 80%. The Trans-Siberian Railroad is electric. Only the Americas aren't electric.
www.forbes.com
All Trucks Will Run On Batteries Filled With Low-Carbon Electricity
While Tesla’s Semi and charging were head and shoulders above the rest, trucks from other vendors were easily doing 150 miles and up a day with real loads and routes.
www.forbes.com
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mspohr
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Electric heat costs way less than reports say, new data suggests
Electrification nonprofit says annual federal report on winter-fuels costs is misleading and leaves out critical nuance
www.theguardian.com
Now a slew of publications, including the rightwing Daily Caller, have reported that US households using electricity for heat this winter will pay hundreds of dollars more than those who use gas.
Electric heat pumps, which are installed outside buildings and can both heat and cool homes, push warm air out of the home in the summer and draw it inside during the winter. Because they transfer heat rather than generate it, heat pumps warm homes very efficiently, using half as much energy as electric resistance heaters, according to the Department of Energy, and two to three times less energy than oil- and gas-powered heaters, according to recent research.
That means heat pumps, championed as the best option for the planet, will probably cost much less to operate than the $1,063 that the Energy Information Agency estimated for electric heating in its winter outlook report.
It found that heat pump users can expect to pay just $639 for electricity from October to March – more than 60% less than homes with electric resistance heaters.
Despite these efforts, the Energy Information Agency has repeatedly underestimated the potential savings heat pumps can bring to American homes, Kanj said. “We really need to make sure the agency is caught up with the times,” he said.
mspohr
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The Next Power Plant Is on the Roof and in the Basement
A Department of Energy report promotes a new system that could remake the energy grid.
If there is trouble ahead, Castonguay prepares, among other things, Vermont’s single largest power plant, which isn’t exactly a power plant at all—or, at least, not as we normally think of one. It’s an online network, organized by the utility, of forty-five hundred electric storage batteries (currently, most of them are Tesla Powerwalls), spread out across more than three thousand Vermont homes. The network also includes a broad array of residential rooftop solar panels, which produce the energy stored in those batteries, and smart water heaters and E.V. chargers. The people who have these assets aren’t off the grid; they’re Green Mountain Power customers who, for a discount on their bills, agree to plug their batteries (most of which are leased to own) and appliances into the utility’s network and let the company control the devices so that they use less power at critical moments.
Green Mountain Power is at the forefront of this push; last month, it announced plans to install storage batteries for many of its customers—two hundred and seventy thousand homes and businesses, in total—in the next decade, pending regulatory approval. (Castonguay says it is testing a new home battery system, from FranklinWH—a company named for Ben Franklin, who actually coined the term “battery”—and that this apparatus seems to work as well as the Powerwall.)
... with the advent of the Internet, every person became a potential content producer and was connected laterally to everyone else. Now the electric grid is belatedly starting to follow that model, with millions of homes and businesses becoming energy suppliers and storage nodes. All this is coming at a crucial moment, as the demand for electricity is expected to soar.
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GMP has been in the news for years. I'm really looking forward to a critical analysis (money and power wise) of their cutting edge approaches. How does GMP handle load spikes when not using consumer batteries ? If e.g. Quebec hydro provides backup, then their experience may not be widely applicable.
mspohr
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I believe the point is that the "consumer batteries" microgrid handles spikes and times of grid stress. The advantage of a micro-grid is that(unlike large power stations) there is no single point of failure so even is one (or more) of their thousands of consumer batteries is offline, the micro-grid will continue to provide resilient power.
Here is their page on energy mix:
Annual Energy Mix - Green Mountain Power
Our energy supply is 100% carbon free and more than 68% renewable. We work hard to provide customers with clean, cost-effective reliable power.
greenmountainpower.com
Many power companies rely on purchased hydro and other sources of power so I don't think this alters the basic calculations of the micro-grid. The main factor in grid reliability is the "dispatchability" of the power to meet changing grid demands. Micro-grids (and large battery banks) have the highest level of response to grid demands. Nuclear and coal are the lowest.
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mspohr
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That's a supplemental pilot light to burn off random methane in the room before it reaches explosive concentration.
Electrification of new U.S. vehicles continues at a good clip.
Non-hybrid ICE vehicles fell to 82% of sales in the 3rd quarter this year. Also "BEV prices are now within $3,000 of the overall industry average transaction price for light-duty vehicles."
Electric vehicles and hybrids grow to a record-high 18% of U.S. light-duty vehicle sales
Non-hybrid ICE vehicles fell to 82% of sales in the 3rd quarter this year. Also "BEV prices are now within $3,000 of the overall industry average transaction price for light-duty vehicles."
Electric vehicles and hybrids grow to a record-high 18% of U.S. light-duty vehicle sales
A thing to note in there is the breakout of xEVs. US Hybrid sales have never been higher. Rumors of Toyota's death are greatly exaggerated.Electrification of new U.S. vehicles continues at a good clip.
Non-hybrid ICE vehicles fell to 82% of sales in the 3rd quarter this year. Also "BEV prices are now within $3,000 of the overall industry average transaction price for light-duty vehicles."
Electric vehicles and hybrids grow to a record-high 18% of U.S. light-duty vehicle sales
But also, if people are increasingly buying hybrids, it's a good sign for plug-ins as well.
mspohr
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I love to see the intersecting S curves of EV adoption increasing and ICE decreasing.Electrification of new U.S. vehicles continues at a good clip.
Non-hybrid ICE vehicles fell to 82% of sales in the 3rd quarter this year. Also "BEV prices are now within $3,000 of the overall industry average transaction price for light-duty vehicles."
Electric vehicles and hybrids grow to a record-high 18% of U.S. light-duty vehicle sales
Doubt Toyota will go extinct any time in the next few decades, but their share of global vehicle sales will likely be much lower in 10 years. At this rate, they will also likely not have a large chunk of the (high profit margin) premium segment.
mspohr
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Now that BEVs a dropping in price to be comparable to ICE, more people will be attracted to the low operating costs.
Of course, Toyota is ramping up the FUD about BEVs but people will eventually figure it out.
Toyota has been hyping high battery costs for BEVs but battery costs are dropping rapidly (as Tony Seba predicted 10+ years ago).
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