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I think a lot of center/right people are fed up with the woke culture, some of their favourite tv-shows are being totally ruined. I used to be a Star Trek fan, but I seriously cannot watch the latest woke version of it. It has turned into minority women humiliating white men over and over again:

A lot of us just want to focus on doing a good job, being a decent parent, watching some decent movie, eat our favorite meal in peace etc:

Not all the time be bombarded with woke messages in every context from schools, movies, news, protests etc. Maybe the left is not as woke as we believe, but it sure seems like that a lot of the time.
I have no idea how a bunch of Brianna Taylor protesters ended up outside of a restaurant, I clicked thinking they were protesting the restaurant.

This brings up another point, which is far afield, which is how various forms of media, of all stripes, take isolated incidents, report on them, and then it seems like whatever it is is far more prevalent then it actually is.

Twitter, to try to sweve back on point, is one of many platforms which operate to magnify points far out of proportion to what their realistic affect is. I can't believe Elon Musk posts on it, let alone is buying it.
 
People on the right (I have no idea what the Republican Party official stance is, but I doubt it is what you said it was) generally believe that fossil fuels do cause warming. BUT they generally don’t believe this will cause catastrophic, positive feedback loop warming which will destroy life on earth.

Elons stance is similar to that actually, with a twist. He says it is unlikely fossil fuels will cause catastrophic global warming in the next century, but we don’t actually know. Therefore we should wean ourselves off fossil fuels in an organized and sane manner. He most recently said in a Ted interview that he thinks the path we are on now, with our current incremental movement towards solar, wind, hydro and nuclear energy and away from fossil fuels, is sufficient to generate a good outcome.

Climate experts don’t agree with those on the right. (‘Not going to be catastrophic’)

Moreover, you are semi whitewashing the issue by pretending the right and the republicans actually believe in human caused global warming. Almost all the extreme opinions against climate change and AP science is from the loud voices on the right.
 
This brings up another point, which is far afield, which is how various forms of media, of all stripes, take isolated incidents, report on them, and then it seems like whatever it is is far more prevalent then it actually is.
Maybe, but this is not how many of the centre voters experience it. For them it felt like it was not isolated incidents but rather things happening in many places and in many domains, sometimes close to them or people they know. And what they fear is not neccessarily the current situation but the perceived escalation of the frequency and intensity of these incidents.
 
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Maybe, but this is not how many of the centre voters experience it. For them it felt like it was not isolated incidents but rather things happening in many places and in many domains, sometimes close to them or people they know. And what they fear is not neccessarily the current situation but the perceived escalation of the frequency and intensity of these incidents.
The classic example is whenever a Tesla gets in an accident its all over the place. You would think no other cars ever have accidents, frankly.

But that's just because I happen to be informed about Tesla. For someone who is merely perusing the news, I would expect out of 100 people who have no actual experience probably what, 70 of them? Would think from the reporting that Teslas are more dangerous as opposed to less dangerous, which anyone on these boards knows is the case.

So, I agree with you. Out here in the Los Angeles area there were no shortage of protests. The ones I saw personally in Highland Park around York blvd were as mild as could be, with the only real effect being more traffic. A good friend has a coffee shop and the only effect had was to sell more coffee than usual and I guess have more people ask to use the bathroom or something.

I'll give you another tidbit. As far as I could find out, and I really looked, Antifa doesn't exist as some sort of actual entity. The reason I looked was it looked unfair that these Proud Boys knuckelheads seemed pretty well funded and showed up all over the place, obviously with a travel budget, and with money to gear up. I figured, he, maybe Antifa could use some donations so that if a fight breaks out at least they can fight back, wear some bullet proof vests, or whatever.

But Antifa does not exist in the sense that I could find, like actually donate money to them, or even get a newsletter or whatever. Man, consume any conservative media and you would think Antifa is like the Sierra Club, or, to be more accurate, at least like maybe BLM which has some organization.

So I would speculate that there are plenty of conservatives out there who, as you say, are worried about some "Antifa protesters" getting out of control. There are criminals everywhere, and I would not go to a protest which looked to unorganized or anywhere people might be liquored up, like an away soccer game that England is playing someone, for example. :)

But millions of people are worried about a liberal problem which is non-existent.

Its really depressing. And Musk is buying Twitter. Who knows, he might have some plan to limit propaganda of any stripe, but it doesn't sound like it at the moment.
 
So, Trump calling on supporters to march on the Capitol is not protected free speech. Nor are his tweets about the subject ?

If that is the case, Twitter is correct in banning him ?
Twitter is not the government, so they can ban Trump and anyone else they choose, as long as they don't ban someone for being part of a protected class.
 
Long line today at the Twitter shredders.

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After reading the news today about Elon Musk and Twitter, I think turn-around specialist business owner Elon Musk might be better than Founder Elon Musk.
 
I think a lot of center/right people are fed up with the woke culture, some of their favourite tv-shows are being totally ruined. I used to be a Star Trek fan, but I seriously cannot watch the latest woke version of it. It has turned into minority women humiliating white men over and over again:
I find this interesting, but Star Trek is has always been a "woke" TV show from the start and always shown that people of any race and sex were equal. Elon is a fan.

What about Dr Musk the psychiatrist telling millions of patients to switch their medications?
Honestly, it's not a bad idea to get a second opinion about medications, though you really shouldn't get those opinions from the internet.

Dunno it sounds kinda dumb to post that on social media (and to listen to it), but I'm not a billionaire with 89M "people" following me.
This is true, and one of the issues with social media - there's a lot of crazy voices out there, not all of the voices carry the same weight due to the number of followers they have, regardless of how crazy they are and social media makes most their money through advertising which means you need to attract more users and more engagement.

And how do you attract more users? You amplify the voice of crazy, loud voices that create controversy.

Social media as it exists is an extremely poor medium to serve as the "town hall" and the rise of social media is to blame for the left and right drifting farther part. Normal, sane people do not generate the drama required to drive advertising revenue.

I remain unconvinced that Elon will be able to effect change at Twitter that will grow it's user base, improve profitability and make changes to Twitter that turn it into an effective town-square.
 
I find this interesting, but Star Trek is has always been a "woke" TV show from the start and always shown that people of any race and sex were equal. Elon is a fan.
But now it’s white straight male = bad. Some people believe that’s equal, we don’t. It used to be progressive in a nice way before, now it’s so over the top woke and it’s central to show.

I loved Janeway, I didn’t mind a few gay crew and interspecies romances. But this is just too much...

 
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Free speech absolutism.... We're in the gutter now.

 
But now it’s white straight male = bad.

Have you actually watched the show... at all? Doesn't sound like it.

The bad guys through most of season 1 are...Klingons. Hardly straight white males. The nearest you really get to a straight white male villian at all is Lorca... who is only actively a bad guy for like 1/5th of the episodes he's even in (and the actor is Jewish BTW)

The ultimate bad guy in season 2 was... an AI. Which was not white, male, or straight, being an AI.

The primary "bad guy" in season 3 is a woman. A woman of color even (granted- that color is green)

In season 4 the nearest thing to a "bad guy" was a dude who was doing it get back to his boyfriend in a mirror universe.


The video is painfully bad, he repeatedly speaks on behalf of minority groups he's not a member of, who themselves love a number of the bits of the show the video author insists are "insulting" them them, insists it's not "realistic" for there to be this many high ranking women, and appears to only cover half of the shows actual seasons so when he complains about a character not having enough development it'd be like saying at the end of season 2 of TNG that Guinan was a terrible character because she was only there to be black or something- ignoring what we see from her the rest of the series.

Then he rants for a bit about how a woman is head of security... guess he forgot about Tasha Yar on TNG? Or was he mad then too?

it keeps getting worse- insisting there's only black people on the bridge as tokens, while PAST trek shows EVERYONE was equal parts of the cast.... Really? Uhura had a ton of deep character development right from Season 1 did she? No, of course not. However, by end of season 4 these characters HAVE actually gotten more development, certainly more than they ever got in TOS for example.

Pretty much the only thing he does NOT get painfully, embarrassingly, wrong, is that Jett Reno is a great character.



I didn’t mind a few gay crew and interspecies romances.


How generous of you. I'm sure they'll be very grateful.
 
Have you actually watched the show... at all? Doesn't sound like it.

The bad guys through most of season 1 are...Klingons. Hardly straight white males. The nearest you really get to a straight white male villian at all is Lorca... who is only actively a bad guy for like 1/5th of the episodes he's even in (and the actor is Jewish BTW)

The ultimate bad guy in season 2 was... an AI. Which was not white, male, or straight, being an AI.

The primary "bad guy" in season 3 is a woman. A woman of color even (granted- that color is green)

In season 4 the nearest thing to a "bad guy" was a dude who was doing it get back to his boyfriend in a mirror universe.


The video is painfully bad, he repeatedly speaks on behalf of minority groups he's not a member of, who themselves love a number of the bits of the show the video author insists are "insulting" them them, insists it's not "realistic" for there to be this many high ranking women, and appears to only cover half of the shows actual seasons so when he complains about a character not having enough development it'd be like saying at the end of season 2 of TNG that Guinan was a terrible character because she was only there to be black or something- ignoring what we see from her the rest of the series.

Then he rants for a bit about how a woman is head of security... guess he forgot about Tasha Yar on TNG? Or was he mad then too?

it keeps getting worse- insisting there's only black people on the bridge as tokens, while PAST trek shows EVERYONE was equal parts of the cast.... Really? Uhura had a ton of deep character development right from Season 1 did she? No, of course not. However, by end of season 4 these characters HAVE actually gotten more development, certainly more than they ever got in TOS for example.

Pretty much the only thing he does NOT get painfully, embarrassingly, wrong, is that Jett Reno is a great character.






How generous of you. I'm sure they'll be very grateful.
Thanks for the spoliers...
 
I find this interesting, but Star Trek is has always been a "woke" TV show from the start and always shown that people of any race and sex were equal. Elon is a fan.


Honestly, it's not a bad idea to get a second opinion about medications, though you really shouldn't get those opinions from the internet.


This is true, and one of the issues with social media - there's a lot of crazy voices out there, not all of the voices carry the same weight due to the number of followers they have, regardless of how crazy they are and social media makes most their money through advertising which means you need to attract more users and more engagement.

And how do you attract more users? You amplify the voice of crazy, loud voices that create controversy.

Social media as it exists is an extremely poor medium to serve as the "town hall" and the rise of social media is to blame for the left and right drifting farther part. Normal, sane people do not generate the drama required to drive advertising revenue.

I remain unconvinced that Elon will be able to effect change at Twitter that will grow it's user base, improve profitability and make changes to Twitter that turn it into an effective town-square.

I suppose the question comes in, do you want a value signaling platform that's consistently boring? or do you want the "crazy" voices "out there" to add a little variety to the social media dialogue? or do you want info related to real-time events? data analysis of topics you don't even know about?

...social media offers all of these while building out engagement and follower counts for people that are adding value and being productive to the general society in their own way. Sorry if you don't see that. Great if you do.
 
Climate experts don’t agree with those on the right. (‘Not going to be catastrophic’)

Moreover, you are semi whitewashing the issue by pretending the right and the republicans actually believe in human caused global warming. Almost all the extreme opinions against climate change and AP science is from the loud voices on the right.
and the same could be said about the far left. Both crazy.
 

Elon Musk’s sudden deal to purchase Twitter has triggered optimism in some quarters that the mission to “authenticate all humans” and defeat spam bots will spur technology innovation at a company that has historically struggled with cybersecurity.
 
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