trayloader
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Absolutely. I would argue it might me the same
Person or clique. We will witness a maximum two line reply. Never a thought process. But that doesn’t matter. People will easily see the pattern. But BTT
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Person or clique. We will witness a maximum two line reply. Never a thought process. But that doesn’t matter. People will easily see the pattern. But BTT
Lost sales can only be replaced by increased demand for better cheaper cars.
Higher volumes of better and cheaper cars is the mission.
If buyers don't buy a Tesla, then hopefully they buy another EV.
Getting Elon to change his mind and tone things down will be difficult.
Getting Elon to step back into a lower profile role at Tesla will be difficult.
Elon isn't the only person working at Tesla.
It's quite exhaustive. Musk is very well known in Germany, not least because of Gigafacory Berlin, and the Twitter-takeover is simply the best farce in town. Very few people in Germany do use Twitter, though. I don't know anyone and most of my friends use basically any other social platform that's availabe.
I may repeat myself, but as a defender of free speech Musk is completely unconvincing. "Free speech" doesn't mean to be allowed to kick downwards, like calling a cave diver a "pedo guy" without any evidence whatsoever, but to be able to speak truth to power. Anything out there where Musk attacked the Chinese government for the restriction of free speech in China? Don't think so.
@Just a Reader Not sure what you are disagreeing with? Is it that I am female, or that I am looking forward to the delivery of my Model S Plaid? Or is it that I proved @trayloader 's reasoning wrong (who claimed that "ALL female customers do not want to see this behavior" from Elon?)
The discussion is taking a turn for the worse, now focussing on (serial-)downvoting, cliques, ultra pros, etc. Make it less personal ! Let's focus on the subject again.
(The moderators also don't like the high number of thumbs down from both sides of the aisle. A written response would be much better.)
(The moderators also don't like the high number of thumbs down from both sides of the aisle. A written response would be much better.)
Zilla91
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But are the high number of thumbs down coming from both sides of the aisle? Doesn’t look like it to me.
Elon's tweet/plea for immediate lower interest rates this morning might be telling. I imagine it's a bit scary building new factories and ramping up production into a worldwide slowing economy.
JRP3
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Yes since as I've said he's lost his way and is damaging his mission(s). And again he is doing nothing to promote free speech, he's just promoting his version of limited speech.
JRP3
Hyperactive Member
He doesn't seem to be working at Tesla at all. I'd be happy if he just made a formal announcement to that effect. We need a more stable CEO who is actually running the company.
JRP3
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Elon Musk’s Twitter Politics Add to Pressure on Tesla’s Brand Image
Democrats in particular have soured on Tesla in recent weeks, survey finds, though the car maker’s customers remain loyal.
www.wsj.com
bkp_duke
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He's not wrong in this. The FED historically has been extremely poor at "pivoting" at the right time and usually overshoots (in both directions).
But, JPowell has said he won't stop till the job market is crushed (that's the real target, inflation is just a red herring).
bkp_duke
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Interesting, one has to wonder if the original poster of this info was coloring things due to their own bias . . .
ElectricIAC
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I’ll take confirmation bias for $8, Alex.
Have to understand WHY government attacks billionaires. Billionaires are hard to control because they are billionaires. Billionaires also have a very large microphone that can sway public opinion. Then you have Elon who doesn't fall in line and doesn't even care if he nukes his own money. How can we shut him down? By attacking his character to the point that everything he says seem like a lie and everything he does will be consider toxic. This is why China make billionaires disappear, and when Russian billionaires are out of line, they accidently fall from their apartment.
When you have enough power and money, you become less and less free, hence why Elon personally feels that free speech is under fire because HIS speech have been constantly attacked if it's not what the government wants to hear.
But (from the page you linked to):
Because it's also more complicated than it appears at first glance, the relationship between inflation and unemployment has broken down in periods like the stagflationary 1970s and the booming 1990s.
Inflation isn't a problem of too much employment. It's fundamentally a problem of too many people trying to buy too much stuff (or another way to look at it, not enough stuff to meet demand). So anything that gets people to not spend money on stuff and do other things with it instead will tame inflation. For markets where you can increase the supply of stuff for people to buy, anything that does that will help too.
JRP3
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His own words and actions provide them with plenty of ammunition.
ElectricIAC
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Well, maybe they should back off so he can find something else to entertain himself with.
Elon is a fighter, if you bring the fight to him he’s going to put on his gloves.
bkp_duke
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Correct. We have pumped trillions of stimulus money into the economies of the world over the past 2.5 years, and we have had significant supply chain problems (China Zero-COVID policy), and a war in Europe that disrupted the energy supply chain (drastically).
These things are being "unwound" directly in front of our eyes in the form of inflation, and the Fed is fighting it with the only tool they have available: interest rates. A better tool would be a diversified energy policy, but that takes time, and a concerted will (Europe has it apparently, the USA not so much).
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Everyone's action can provide anyone who wants to destroy you with plenty of ammunition. It's hard to prove intent, so for those who wants to destroy you will instill your intent for you.
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