Enough with the Games, already.

[SMAlset]

I read in an Electrek article on the recent departure of Stuart Bowers and subsequent move to another company, that the Autopilot Software Team is more than 100 engineers. These guys are highly skilled and highly doubt any of them are programming games for Tesla so not taking away from their work, plus the fact I saw the job listings specifically for gaming. Tesla is constantly working on ideas to improve the cars and make them more fun to own and drive. Games are just one tiny aspect and certainly even from responses here are enjoyed by many.

Tesla's head of Autopilot software leaves in restructuring - Electrek

 

[BYE FOSL]

Maybe the fart porters could port some customer service improvements instead. I would have loved to just get the features and services I bought. While failing to secure that, the farts pissed me off.

 

[Rothgarr]

It's been said many times before in this thread, but the resources used to make the games and easter eggs have nothing to do with how customer service is run, or affect any other programming aspect of the car. Getting rid of those features would not make customer service better and autopilot or other software would not improve.

But oh man do I love those games and Easter Eggs. It keeps the kids happy each time we need to charge. I always take pics when they play when we charge, their smiles say it all. And it's also one of the biggest wow factors when someone asks me about the car and they see the games for the first time.

 

[SammichLover]

One other important point you might be missing. Tesla is developing the Autopilot software. But it's not developing games, it's porting them! There is a huge difference in cost between developing software and porting it to a new platform. Something that takes years to develop might take weeks or even days to port.

I don't think Tesla is even doing that, at least for some of the games the porting is done by 3rd party. That Cuphead game for example, the original developer themselves talked about how they were doing the port and the technical requirements they had to meet to do it.

As for who it's for, well beside the buzz (this works out to dirt cheap advertising) I always assumed it was for people that use SC locally. They've got a lot of sitting in the car parked to do.

 

[Knightshade]

I don't think Tesla is even doing that, at least for some of the games the porting is done by 3rd party.

Yup.... All the atari games are just off-the-shelf emulation using an off-the-shelf emulator that has existed for many years.

The racing game is a port done by the original developer not Tesla, as are cuphead and fallout shelter.


Like I said about the only thing any "programmer" at Tesla is doing is adding the finished game from someone else to the menu in the car.

 

[Phlier]

OK, so all of the Tesla related forums are rife with guys complaining that Tesla's programmers should be working on AP, UI, etc. rather than on games.

I *highly* doubt that Tesla would task their AP, UI, etc. programmers with porting/writing games for the Tesla. I have a feeling (with no way to back it up) that it is unpaid Tesla fans that are porting/writing games for the cars.

I just tweeted to Elon that all the forums are blowing up with the whole "let your programmers work on the car, not games!" type posts, asking him to clarify where the games programming effort is coming from. I doubt he'll reply, though.

But honestly.... do you guys really think that he's taking away from his core car development team to work on games? I don't. IMO, games development is not hindering or interfering with the car's main development at all.

 

[Octo]

LOL doesn’t matter if the people who work on the games aren’t UI or autonomy specialists.

What matters is that it’s bad strategy and execution to promise robotaxis but deliver beach buggy farts instead.

It’s the stuff that kills reputation.

 

[Garlan Garner]

"Working is one of the most dangerous forms of procrastination."
Gretchen Rubin

I just don't give a rat's ass about the "entertainment" features that seem to figure prominently in Elon's vision for the cars. I would rather have him take those coding teams and devote their engineering horsepower to better wipers, cross-traffic alerts, CarPlay and Android Auto, text message integration, sentry mode on the dashboard and mobile app, etc.

Anybody else not care one bit for Fart Mode 2 and Enhanced Missile Command?

Is the voting what you thought it would be?

Did you think it would be more lopsided?


I wonder if the Tesla Game integrators are the same people who integrate other car features. In other words....are the game developers really holding up the feature developers?

 

[Knightshade]

LOL doesn’t matter if the people who work on the games aren’t UI or autonomy specialists.

Does it matter if they don't work for Tesla at all?

Because that's the actual case.

The Linux atari emulator was written years ago by someone having nothing to do with Tesla.

The actual atari games are just ROMs of stuff mostly written in the 1970s and early 80s.

Tesla "programmers" did nothing but add them to a menu to launch them in the car.

What matters is that it’s bad strategy and execution to promise robotaxis but deliver beach buggy farts instead.

It’s the stuff that kills reputation.

No, lack of reading comprehension is.

For example nobody promised you a robotaxi this year but you seem to think you're owed one.

The games on the other hand are free easter eggs, that as mentioned cost Tesla essentially 0 resources to include since the actual work is done by people who aren't Tesla.



This is been explained like 10 times by at least 4 or 5 different people in the thread, and yet people still don't understand it.

 

[Octo]

Does it matter if they don't work for Tesla at all?

Because that's the actual case.

The Linux atari emulator was written years ago by someone having nothing to do with Tesla.

The actual atari games are just ROMs of stuff mostly written in the 1970s and early 80s.

Tesla "programmers" did nothing but add them to a menu to launch them in the car.





No, lack of reading comprehension is.

For example nobody promised you a robotaxi this year but you seem to think you're owed one.

The games on the other hand are free easter eggs, that as mentioned cost Tesla essentially 0 resources to include since the actual work is done by people who aren't Tesla.



This is been explained like 10 times by at least 4 or 5 different people in the thread, and yet people still don't understand it.

blablabla.

Of course I understand your points. You apparently don’t understand mine but that’s fine, it’s complicated for some.

 

[Knightshade]

blablabla.

Of course I understand your points.

Sure doesn't look like it since they directly contradict your complaints by using facts.

b
You apparently don’t understand mine but that’s fine, it’s complicated for some.

Since they appear to be based on you not having received something you weren't actually promised to get by now, nobody really understands them. Even worse when you're griping about something that didn't take any real resources away from the thing you're mad you don't have even though you weren't promised it by now anyway.

Nothing complicated, just nonsensical.

 

[Rothgarr]

As I understand it, these controllers work for the games:
https://amzn.to/2HpWSdi

Has anyone used any other that they'r recommend?

Also, do any of you have a USB hub you'd recommend for inside the center console?

 

[DoubleE]

In my opinion, as a Tesla owner since 2016, people who just recently purchased a Tesla are acting like Millenials who need instant gratification.

I've never seen Tesla whip out new features this quickly, albeit games and other minor functions.

Believe it or not, there actually was a time when Tesla owners went almost a year without any new features!!

People suddenly feel entitled and expect new features every month. Be happy with what your car does NOW, and surprised by what it will do as new features are rolled out in the future.

 

[Garlan Garner]

blablabla.

Of course I understand your points. You apparently don’t understand mine but that’s fine, it’s complicated for some.

LOL.

I like how you started you post.

 

[Garlan Garner]

In my opinion, as a Tesla owner since 2016, people who just recently purchased a Tesla are acting like Millenials who need instant gratification.

I've never seen Tesla whip out new features this quickly, albeit games and other minor functions.

Believe it or not, there actually was a time when Tesla owners went almost a year without any new features!!

People suddenly feel entitled and expect new features every month. Be happy with what your car does NOW, and surprised by what it will do as new features are rolled out in the future.

Yeah...I agree 1000%.

People feel like they are entitled to "FREE" everything.

Not only "FREE" but "QUICK" and "RELIABLE" and "SAFE" and "FREE" and then after that - "AT NO COST".

 

[Octo]

Sure doesn't look like it since they directly contradict your complaints by using facts.




Since they appear to be based on you not having received something you weren't actually promised to get by now, nobody really understands them. Even worse when you're griping about something that didn't take any real resources away from the thing you're mad you don't have even though you weren't promised it by now anyway.

Nothing complicated, just nonsensical.

I actually got all I was promised. I didn’t buy FSD (lol). My vote in this poll was option #2 BTW.

But I understand if people are unhappy if they spent $6000 on FSD and there is glacial progress while silly things like games get frequent updates.

Of course, games are easy to add and more important features are super difficult and handled by a totally different team. You really think people don’t know this?!?

 

[TMarque]

I agree with you there are more important things that could be done other than these games. I felt strongly so at one point. But after giving my nephew a ride and seeing how excited he was to see the “fart mode” I kind of changed my mind. I was one of those kids that grew up with a poster of a Porsche 911 poster on my wall. Building brand loyalty starts early, and I did plan on buying a Porsche (for my 40th bday) all the way until I bought my P3D in lieu. If they’re not spending a ton of resources not making these a priority over other useful features (especially safety features) then I don’t have a problem with it.

 

[Garlan Garner]

I agree with you there are more important things that could be done other than these games. I felt strongly so at one point. But after giving my nephew a ride and seeing how excited he was to see the “fart mode” I kind of changed my mind. I was one of those kids that grew up with a poster of a Porsche 911 poster on my wall. Building brand loyalty starts early, and I did plan on buying a Porsche (for my 40th bday) all the way until I bought my P3D in lieu. If they’re not spending a ton of resources not making these a priority over other useful features (especially safety features) then I don’t have a problem with it.

LOL...

Wouldn't it be great though if Tesla could build a single car that each person in this thread liked?


I wonder who in this thread could do such a thing. hmmm?


Maybe Tesla could make that a $100,000,000 challenge. Someone - make a car that EVERYONE likes with only the options that EVERYONE wants. hmmmm?

100 million dollars are on the table …"Ready"..."Set"..."Go"....

( BTW....I wouldn't have chosen a better post for my 10K)

 

[Garlan Garner]

Whoever finishes the above challenge first gets to criticize Tesla.

(and collect their 100 million).

 

[Silicon Desert]

This is an old argument. One person's opinion versus another's. No useful information here--move on.

Uh, for that matter, most new posts have been discussed already. So I guess you mean we should just shut down the forum and stop posting?