I wholeheartedly agree with you. I guess more than anything I find it curious that they make such heavy use of the friction brakes. Like, is it more difficult to break with regen? Why WOULDN'T you use it? I hardly touch the friction brakes when I drive. Maybe it's because FSD doesn't currently look too far ahead and therefore needs to break harder when the time comes. Just speculation on my part though.
Difficult to say - may be its more difficult to estimate the braking with regen needed to stop within a particular distance ?
Wow and this is a model 3! Do you have a lot of slopes or pure highway running 80-90?
Yes, more than I would anyways. But not as much as FSD (perhaps only because you don't brake as much on the highway).
Agreed, it doesn't make a huge difference like climate does. But if you're an efficiency nazi like me, it's still enough to drive you nuts
I can clearly see the brake being depressed during deceleration. Also all those big and small phantom brakings, unnecessary hard accelerations and late brakings will reduce efficiency as well.
Hmm, that's a funny way to ask for information. Anyway, yes, I'm sure the Beta reduces efficiency. The merging behavior is nauseating on 10.5, 10.6 is smoother. Both versions will brake sometimes when I would not.
Per number, FSD is 10-30% less efficient than me on our local hilly road and 5-10% less efficient on longer trips with 80+% highway.
10.5 definitely accelerates harder and brakes harder than it needs to or I would. Coming up behind a line of stopped cars at a light, I’m never quite sure if it’s going to stop up until the instant beta jumps hard on the brakes.
Hey, no offense, just want to express the admiration of these beautiful numbers from you. Glad to see they are getting even better now. My car is almost exact the same config with yours (red with Gemini) so I used to think my aftermarket 4 piece mud flaps are culprits. Now I get over it. Recently I started to drive 4 miles each day to drop off/pick up my kid, and manual drive is averaging 239wh/mi (FSD 255-285). I can imagine having similar efficiency as yours if its a longer commute. Unfortunately most of my drive was highway at 80mph when possible. Even at consistent 70, I can’t get your efficiency so I’d imagine your highway miles are usually below 70mph?
Short lived thread as we will soon be needing a 10.6.1 thread maybe.
Not so much. It only seems to when there is a phantom hard braking. In AP only off highway with traffic lights, we get that notice "stopping for traffic control," here it will begin slowing much sooner than a red light in FSD beta. Then when the light turns green FSD beta takes off almost like a drag race car even in chill mode. These driving habits lead to less efficiency. Plus friction braking does not add energy back into the battery.
With multiple lanes and right-on-red it can be the polite and safe thing to do to avoid the right lane.
