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FSD - Worthwhile Investment?
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Purchased it for model 3 in 2018, and then traded for model Y and bought FSD. I currently have Model X 2022 with FSD and recent earnings call Musk said HW3 to HW4 is not "economically feasible"
At least wait till HW4 comes out
We got scammed for sure.
Well he said all current HW3 Teslas will become Robotaxis. Either they will upgrade until it's achieved or it will become the Elizabeth Holmes situation and an enormous class action lawsuit given that just in the US more than 400 thousand people have purchased it.
I didn’t hear about the upgrade to HW4 being not feasible. That’s interesting. Lots of cars out there that have had the promise. They’ll probably stop selling “Full Self Driving” and call that complete, and call the new stuff “Completely Full Self Driving”.
Lame.
Cuz ... "Papa needs a new pair a' gigapresses".
Was proud of my Tesla today, had it on FSD and while going 40 mph, it abruptly slowed down to about 15 mph. There was nothing in front of me so I thought it was a mistake, then I saw a boy between two city garbage cans next to the curb, all I could see was his head. Tesla had seen him before me. He didn't cross the road but Tesla was ready if he did. With all of the anti FSD from O'Dowd and the Dawn Project, it was nice to see one more reason why FSD is way ahead of everything else, and has a far better safety record on average, than human drivers.
FirstInTown
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If it did indeed do this, that is great! Might have saved that kids life! Then again, maybe it just saw a shadow, got scared and slammed on the brakes and the whole thing was a coincidence. Mine does that more often than slamming on brakes for a kids as it seems to be afraid of shadows.
So we can debate if it is set to be 'super twitchy' and brake for every child like head it sees if the shadows or if the danger of being rear ended because it Phantom Brakes all the time is better. I guess saving the kid is better because a reareding is just body damage? But the Phantom Braking sure is annoying!
So we can debate if it is set to be 'super twitchy' and brake for every child like head it sees if the shadows or if the danger of being rear ended because it Phantom Brakes all the time is better. I guess saving the kid is better because a reareding is just body damage? But the Phantom Braking sure is annoying!
When you say the feature cannot be separated from the vehicle after purchase, are you referring to some technical aspect of why that might not be possible or just what Tesla provided when you asked them about it?
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It's not a technical limitation, it is a legal/licensing limitation. When Tesla sells FSD, it is effectively a non-transferrable license to the vehicle (as opposed to a license to you).
I totally agree, I too regret for paying 15K without having that FSD installed, I bought the car on February I thought It will come as activated as a wide version was already released in November. If I knew that won't be the case, I wouldn't pay 15K for the feature and rather would wait to have it available first and then upgrade to the feature later. I would not recommend anyone to pay 15K upfront when you don't know if the car is coming with the package activated,
preilly44
Member
I've had FSD on a couple of our Teslas in the past and even though I think it has made huge improvements over the last 14 months, we didn't purchase it for our new X (that has HW4). $15k is just too expensive for what you get. EAP is a fair deal for 95% of the features.
Sandiegodoug
Active Member
I have fsd on both my 2017 x and 2018 3. It’s fun to play with, watching car make turns, signal , pass slower vehicles, but really just a toy now. Autopilot very useful for the freeway, but it’s free. We did not opt to pay 15000 for our performance y on order. 15k just too much. Maybe there will be another fire sale. I’d pay 5k to add to y.
