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Discussion in 'Model S' started by Whittier22, Nov 1, 2019.

  1. Whittier22

    Whittier22 New Member

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    I purchased new the 2013 Model S. From the very beginning, I felt the headlamps, particularly at low beam, were very poor. I would keep my high beam on and never did a car approaching from the opposite direction signal to lower my beams. Brought to service attention and I was told they cannot be adjusted. When taking a 90 degree right turn on a dark street, I cannot see if there is a car parked on the side of the street. I noticed on a 2015 loaner car the the headlamps were improved. I feel this is a safety issue. Low beam should illuminate 150-200 feet. My do not. I was told by an independent Tesla repair shop that they could change the headlights for $2600. They told me many people have expressed this problem. Any suggestions.
     
  2. ucmndd

    ucmndd Well-Known Member

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    I agree the Model S headlights are indeed pretty poor. That said, I've generally heard the first-gen HID 2012-2016 units are actually better than the post-facelift LEDs.

    I think you've more or less laid out the possible solutions. Deal with it or spend some big bucks on replacements or aftermarket retrofit.
     
  3. Ostrichsak

    Ostrichsak Active Member

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    I suggest not paying $2600 for "new headlights" unless you know exactly what you're paying for.
     
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  4. PWlakewood

    PWlakewood Active Member

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    My headlights are great although I did put new bulbs in that were 5000k in color as opposed to the factory 4300k.
     
  5. EvilHeadlights

    EvilHeadlights Former Vendor

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    Performance of the headlight also depends on the age of the bulb as well as proper leveling.
    The pre-facelift bi-xenon headlights can be retrofitted with much better projectors (optics) to really boost the performance of the headlight. We've done a few. If interested, feel free to PM :)
     
  6. J.J.

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    The best headlights I've ever driven behind were in a 2016 BMW 5-Series with the lighting package. I would do just about anything to have those lights in my P85D. As someone who work all 3 shifts, I frequently find myself driving at night on dark roads. The bimmer used to handle this with ease, the Tesla needs more light. With all the tech in a Tesla, it a shame the driving lights were such an after thought... and soft close doors!
     
  7. LateToTheParty

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    I just had to adjust my headlights as both were aimed way too low after being replaced under warranty. The service center forgot to aim them.

    My car is a facelift car though so I have the newer headlights.

    I’d imagine the OG style of lights can be adjusted. It was incredibly easy to do.
     
  8. BrokerDon

    BrokerDon Active Member

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    The HIDs in our fully optioned 2015 P85D are great and the LED Cornering Lights with our Premium Interior Package work well too. I drove a loaner without any cornering lights and it definitely had a "blind spot" when turning.

    Our neighbor bought a 2017 MS 75D (refresh nosecone) with LED headlights and complained to Tesla how inferior they were to his Mercedes. Tesla had them re-aimed and he got better lighting... but honestly not as good as our HISs in our 2-year older non-refresh nosecone 2015 P85D . Progress sometimes is a step back on certain things.
     
  9. Xenoilphobe

    Xenoilphobe Active Member

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    #9 Xenoilphobe, Apr 30, 2020
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    If you are handy you can upgrade them yourself -- I just did this to my daughters Ford Fusion, basically you need to pull the lights and cut or bake them open to install a new bi-xenon lenses and then upgrade to HID.

    I will find the other thread I posted in and direct you there... start here -- also you can pull the old Halogen headlamps and buy the newer Tesla headlamps and then retro them in .. just don't get the newer refresh LED headlights 2016.5 +... they suck almost as bad as the Halogens
    Want new HID headlights

    If you don't want to do that -call this dude, he seems to have a good handle on how to do this.

    www.evilheadlights.com - Phone: (323) 697-0845 - Email: [email protected]
    Based in Norwalk, CA.
     
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  10. Nick70d

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    $2600 too much for a headlight, mine 2015 with hid, i like led so i change to 80W led bulb, make it even better. Bright white.
     
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