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Help NEMA 10-30R
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So here is my solution. It works fine, was about $32 and change. I think is was more a "box checker" for me - just to see if I could do it. I certainly could have gotten by with the 120V or charging somewhere else (e.g. nearby with Clark, Seaside) - but I have this now and will have it in the future. It is a bit cumbersome to carry around, but it is Job Specific and will sit in the garage until I do something like this again.
I have a similar 6-20R to 5-15 that allows me to connect to my welder outlet in the garage at home (I have that and my daily Tesla Charging line). But I have only used that once or twice just too prove it. That one h as a big label on it "Tesla Charging Only" which this one will bear as soon as I get home
I have a similar 6-20R to 5-15 that allows me to connect to my welder outlet in the garage at home (I have that and my daily Tesla Charging line). But I have only used that once or twice just too prove it. That one h as a big label on it "Tesla Charging Only" which this one will bear as soon as I get home
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mikeash
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Thanks for the photo. Not the prettiest thing in the world, but as long as it gets the job done, who cares?
For some reason, it never occurred to me to use a dryer cord on the plug end. I've been through Home Depot pondering an adapter like this and always had in mind the plugs and separate electrical wire. Obviously, the dryer plug would make it much simpler. I'll be sure to remember that if I'm ever in the same situation.
For some reason, it never occurred to me to use a dryer cord on the plug end. I've been through Home Depot pondering an adapter like this and always had in mind the plugs and separate electrical wire. Obviously, the dryer plug would make it much simpler. I'll be sure to remember that if I'm ever in the same situation.
mikeash
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Yeah, it's obvious now, it just never occurred to me for some reason.
What's really weird is that I wired my HPWC with a cable like this. You'd think I would have realized it would make sense for an adapter too. At least you guys helped me figure it out before I wasted a bunch of effort.
What's really weird is that I wired my HPWC with a cable like this. You'd think I would have realized it would make sense for an adapter too. At least you guys helped me figure it out before I wasted a bunch of effort.
For the other end of the adapter, these are the nicest NEMA 14-50 receptacles I've found. You have to order them, Home Depot, etc. doesn't typically carry them.
Amazon.com: Camco 55353 50 AMP Female Replacement Receptacle: Automotive
Lots more info about adapters in this document:
http://cosmacelf.net/Home Made Adapters.pdf
Amazon.com: Camco 55353 50 AMP Female Replacement Receptacle: Automotive
Lots more info about adapters in this document:
http://cosmacelf.net/Home Made Adapters.pdf
Mikeman1
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Thanks for the pictures, it made everything clearer.
I wonder why Tesla stopped supplying the Adapters like the ones for dryer outlets.
When you are visiting someone they would be quite handy for a Tesla charge. I had to use
a regular wall socket the last time I visited my sister and her husband, which was painful
enough.
I wonder why Tesla stopped supplying the Adapters like the ones for dryer outlets.
When you are visiting someone they would be quite handy for a Tesla charge. I had to use
a regular wall socket the last time I visited my sister and her husband, which was painful
enough.
I tried to press Tesla on why they would drop support for the dryer adapters (and yet make a NEMA 6-15 adapter that no one uses), and hit a roadblock. They said that the group/person responsible for the online store makes the decisions, which, if true, is nuts. Then again, considering how messed up that store is (stuff is always out of stock), that would explain it.
Tesla makes some good engineering decisions (mostly, I've noticed, when JB Straubel is involved), but in other areas, they really, truly suck. As in, my Model X has fit and finish issues that would make Kia Motors embarrassed.
Tesla makes some good engineering decisions (mostly, I've noticed, when JB Straubel is involved), but in other areas, they really, truly suck. As in, my Model X has fit and finish issues that would make Kia Motors embarrassed.
FlatSix911
Porsche 918 Hybrid
Darn Pretty adapter (if they can be referred to as pretty). Makes my Minecraft looking box appear shameful !!!
FlatSix911
Porsche 918 Hybrid
14-30 is coming back, we did it. Nice work everyone.
thecloud
As rhythm raced inside, the ship came alive
What about the 10-30?
I think it's great news that the 14-30 adapter will be officially available again "soon", although I have to thank @Cosmacelf for providing a lot of light and inspiration during these dark times.
September/October, heard it from what I would consider a very reliable source....What about the 10-30?
I think it's great news that the 14-30 adapter will be officially available again "soon", although I have to thank @Cosmacelf for providing a lot of light and inspiration during these dark times.
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So, I could have gotten away with just the 120V, but this am, I had to run some errands and then come back and pack. In order to make my plans work, I needed a full charge (just appease me and pretend I did the math and that all the "you can make it if you slow down" theories don't fit because of extemporaneous factors of which you are unaware) ...
anyhow, I plugged in just now to get the needed 24 amps and electrons to make it. So it did come in handy.
So, I could have gotten away with just the 120V, but this am, I had to run some errands and then come back and pack. In order to make my plans work, I needed a full charge (just appease me and pretend I did the math and that all the "you can make it if you slow down" theories don't fit because of extemporaneous factors of which you are unaware) ...
anyhow, I plugged in just now to get the needed 24 amps and electrons to make it. So it did come in handy.
You are killing me. One resurrection at a time please.What about the 10-30?
I think it's great news that the 14-30 adapter will be officially available again "soon", although I have to thank @Cosmacelf for providing a lot of light and inspiration during these dark times.
mikeash
Active Member
What about the 10-30?
At least with an official 14-30 adapter, you'll be able to safely use a 10-30 outlet using a small 10-30 to 14-30 adapter and not have to worry about accidentally pulling too much current.
green1
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The added (and unexpected) benefit that I've found is that for some reason the cords can sometimes be cheaper than the plugs alone, and save you the cost of the wire while you're at it.
thecloud
As rhythm raced inside, the ship came alive
Sorry @supratachophobia, I really didn't mean to overlook your tireless efforts to shake the trees for spare adapters and for having led the charge in making Tesla more aware of the need for 30 amp adapters. Thank you for that.
At the same time, I've felt frustrated. Tesla has made it more difficult for me to charge at 24 amps from a dryer outlet at a destination where I cannot "just install a 14-50 outlet," by dropping the adapters in the first place and having an inconsistent story at the service centers. As has been reported on this forum, some service managers were happy to order the part for customers who asked; others flat-out refused since "Tesla is no longer offering them for sale." Since I encountered the latter response, my options for dryer-outlet charging looked like this:
1. Buy a third-party adapter. However, the vendor whose product was $55 had their site go down for about two weeks, and it didn't look like they were going to return to life either. (The site is back up, as of a few days ago.) That left one other adapter on the market, at a considerably higher price of $85.
2. Make an adapter myself for $30 in parts. Since I probably only need to use this adapter a couple of times a year, just enough to eliminate one (crowded) supercharger stop on a trip, this was an appealing choice.
The official Tesla adapter is superior to either of these solutions, because it limits the continuous draw to 24 amps and is therefore safer. However, I cautiously point out that the 10-30 and 14-30 Tesla adapters are not back yet. An overheard conversation on the gigafactory tour bus suggests they could be back sometime in Q4 of this year. What we actually have today are the two solutions above. And I'm glad that alternatives exist while we're waiting.
I totally get what you are saying which is precisely why even despite having one myself, I thought it was ridiculous that me of all people was seeing this great need that Tesla wasn't. And I didn't even know people were trying to use this as a primary charging source at first which makes it even more crucial this adapter comes back to market. The safety aspect alone should be enough motivation as well. I cringe every time I see a Frankenstein solution (but still works!) for trying to get a desired charging situation solved.
I am inherently an irresponsible person, so if I'm the one claiming a safety motivation, you know the situation is bad.
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