As I thought-- too much supercharger kook-aid. Tesla salespeople should be required to take extended trips with the car outside of California before giving any advice.
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Hidden 72 amp charging option
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MitchJi
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I'm assuming that BMW/Nissan will eventually roll out more stations and that it's also likely that there's will be similar options from other OEM's.
MitchJi
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If you check the Greenlots sites and these are located conveniently for you, they should be a better option than using dryer outlets at campgrounds. If you are considering either the dual chargers or a CHAdeMO adaptor this could be a factor in that decision.
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MichealW
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Whether you buy it or not it's not a big deal. I have a friend who works at Tesla. This hidden 72 amp upgrade is a software thing and can be added later. I know this for a fact so I didn't get it and I wasn't worried about it. Yes! You are likely going to want it later (He told me in 3 years or so) but you can pay for it at that time for a few hundred dollars more. The good news is if you get it later you can see what the new infrastructure is and you can make a decision at that time. You also get to save the tax so its about the same price in the end anyway... Hope that helps 
Whether you buy it or not it's not a big deal. I have a friend who works at Tesla. This hidden 72 amp upgrade is a software thing and can be added later. I know this for a fact so I didn't get it and I wasn't worried about it. Yes! You are likely going to want it later (He told me in 3 years or so) but you can pay for it at that time for a few hundred dollars more. The good news is if you get it later you can see what the new infrastructure is and you can make a decision at that time. You also get to save the tax so its about the same price in the end anyway... Hope that helps
this sounds like BS to me and it makes no sense at all, especially since Tesla is very clear about this NOT being available later (aka they cannot retrofit the hardware...so it doesn't seem like it's "just a software thing")
MichealW
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Lol... I'm not going to argue with you. I'm telling you its a fact. My friend is not just some guy who works at Tesla. He runs a service center and has been with the company for a number of years. There is no hardware at all for this option. You can call it BS if you want. Your choice.
Blastphemy
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Fascinating that the guy with 9 posts somehow knows more than the guy with 5,688 posts...
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FarmerDave
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We have also heard of Tesla Delivery Specialists warning customers "not to open front and rear doors of the Model X at the same time because they could hit each other", which has been widely debunked by Bonnie and others.
It seems that false rumors are not exclusive to the TMC, customer-facing Tesla employees pass them on as well.
dwebb66
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I can see there being software difference depending on which charger is installed at the factory, but the changes would(should) be minor enough that it should be covered in the same software build as long as the chaeger type can be read or set as an option.
I do do not see how (or why) Tesla would build charger hardware that can safely handle 72 Amps but limit it to 48 Amps via software.
Well, it's not like you gain an IQ point with every post you make.
That said, I would agree that all evidence points to the 72A charger being a hardware feature, so I wouldn't expect it to be magically available through a software patch later on.
flankspeed8
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Exactly, if this was the case they would not be going through the motions of making it an undesirable option by hiding it.
I agree. Why take the chance? It's not like the software fix to enable supercharging from back in the day when you could order a car without supercharging capability ... And later add the capability via software fix. Supercharging bypasses this 40/80A hardware (in model s) and 48/72A hardware (in model X).
This should be anchored somewhere as a sticky and highlighted. The charging options are not well described on the Model X portion of the Tesla website. As a former Model S owner that sold because I really need the X configuration, the 48 Amp charging rate would have been a real problem for me since I share a charger with a neighbor in my garage in NYC and there are times when we both have long distances to go the next day and we need the higher amperage. I find it extremely bizarre this is a hidden easter egg. The future of the electric grid is dynamic pricing, and this capability could make a significant economic or convenience difference for prospective X owners.
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I was also told by a Tesla employee that it's the same charger and the 72A limit can be raised by a software modification. I know if I was ordering the X right now, I'd get the 72A option anyway.
MichealW
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Thanks for posting Chris. Every one was quick to call BS on information I got from a high-up guy in the company (Not just any salesman). Like I said "No hardware necessary". Go ahead and get the 72A if it makes you feel more comfortable but if you want to wait you will also be just fine
flankspeed8
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Like I said "No hardware necessary". Go ahead and get the 72A if it makes you feel more comfortable but if you want to wait you will also be just fine
IMO this is a big problem with Tesla not speaking clearly on this issue. I fear people can be misled easily and potentially make a mistake that will affect their car forever if indeed it can NOT be fixed by software.
MichealW
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Out of curiosity flankspeed8 how are you basing your opinion? What credibility do you have to speak on this?
Another issue is that it seems to be Tesla's MO to charge more for enabling a software feature later - see AutoPilot.
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