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Tesla absolutely has and does discount new cars. For example, below is a link to a new (which means it also still qualifies for EV incentives) 2018 build Model S P100D for nearly $18K off retail. Some have talked about discounts of a few thousand to $30K or more on new Teslas. If by "discount" you mean "negotiate" I'd say that is less common.

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Discounts are non existent at Tesla. The best way to save money is getting an inventory (not CPO) vehicle. They're usually showroom, test drive, or loaner vehicles. However, they will not be perfect, so don't get angry at minor paint chips or wear.
 
Just wanted to say thank you. I totally get how a lot of you that work (or worked) at Tesla may be feeling that. I can only imagine the immense pressure you guys are under. I do think it's mostly startup pains and things will eventually reach a pleasant steady state, and ultimately the ends (major step forward for sustainable energy and transportation) justify the means. I hope you all hold on to the TSLA stock you received as that will be a direct (but delayed) reward for your contributions in the years to come.

The equity disappears if you don't stay for 4 years. So unless you stick it out for 4 years, it disappears.
 
How do you know they are discounted? It doesn't show the original price. Just the cash price and the price without EV incentives. Unless I'm missing it.

You can design/build a comparably equipped car yourself on tesla.com and compare pricing or an easier way would be to access one of the third-party inventory sites out there that show discount from original price e.g., tesla-info.com.
 
I’m really curious about tesla’s build, Fit and finish, QC coming out of the factory.. I know it has improved, but I’ve seen some car with horrible finish & Mis-alignments... I guess they can’t just throw away the car... service centers would say it’s within tolerance but a lot of times those tolerances are too large, to begin with, 3-5mm?

I took my 2nd MS a few weeks ago. originally scheduled at Marina Del Ray but changed to Burbank center. Marina Del Ray center is great for the first time, in my opinion, but you may feel "you will be rushed to take the delivery". I must say Fit, Finish, and QC has 'decreased', comparing from my first delivery (2014-ish). I have immediately addressed to Tesla and they are addressing all issues at this moment. I have also submitted a report to the management but I haven't heard back anything even a single email. I have referred so many friends to Tesla that the recent delivery experience made me serious concerns. Elon has mentioned during the last stockholder meeting that "we really care about products. We really do..". I hope the message will reach to the upper management so that they get aware of it. The price tag is more than 100K+ and the built-quality was like "30K-ish vehicle". Absolutely not nearly close to the level of Mercedez, Lexas, Porche, unfortunately. That said, the service/support on-field staffs are great and they really work hard to make things right for customers. The issue I see is the upper management decision - rushing orders, poor QC. As a result, # hours of labor spent on a-after-care service is increasing.
 
I’m really curious about tesla’s build, Fit and finish, QC coming out of the factory.. I know it has improved, but I’ve seen some car with horrible finish & Mis-alignments.. I guess they can’t just throw away the car.. service centers would say it’s within tolerance but a lot of times those tolerances are too large to begin with, 3-5mm?

The ~5000 vehicles or so off the production line for new models tend to have these issues. The problem with panel gaps are that they take forever to address when we receive the vehicles. Shops have to have all surrounding panels taken off to realign. It's definitely something that they can do, but don't expect to have your car back in a week's time.
 
If there are imperfections in the paint that need to be corrected, can you have the correction done at a detailer where you are getting PPF applied and then have Tesla pick up the paint correction cost? Or does it need to be handled at the pickup service center?

Also, is the correction worse than the initial defect if done at a Tesla authorized paint correction shop? Does Tesla go for the lowest bid shops for the correction work? (based on horror stories from this forum)

Thank you for taking the time to answer everyone's questions.

You have to point out imperfections at delivery and put on a "due bill". We'll send them to the shops if necessary, but will usually attempt a correction in house. Don't take your vehicle to somebody to correct without having your service center take a look. Tesla can't pay for something you do on your own and come back with.

As far as shops go, the one that we utilized is AMAZING, so I really doubt they go for the lowest bid.
 
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I took my 2nd MS a few weeks ago. originally scheduled at Marina Del Ray but changed to Burbank center. Marina Del Ray center is great for the first time, in my opinion, but you may feel "you will be rushed to take the delivery". I must say Fit, Finish, and QC has 'decreased', comparing from my first delivery (2014-ish). I have immediately addressed to Tesla and they are addressing all issues at this moment. I have also submitted a report to the management but I haven't heard back anything even a single email. I have referred so many friends to Tesla that the recent delivery experience made me serious concerns. Elon has mentioned during the last stockholder meeting that "we really care about products. We really do..". I hope the message will reach to the upper management so that they get aware of it. The price tag is more than 100K+ and the built-quality was like "30K-ish vehicle". Absolutely not nearly close to the level of Mercedez, Lexas, Porche, unfortunately. That said, the service/support on-field staffs are great and they really work hard to make things right for customers. The issue I see is the upper management decision - rushing orders, poor QC. As a result, # hours of labor spent on a-after-care service is increasing.
This concern really comes down to everybody being spread too thin. I'd contact the regional manager for service in your area. Search linked in for "regional service manager" and ping them.
 
As far as people stretched too thin, I believe that Tesla wants to get full capacity out of both it's robots and it's people.

They want to have quality employees that put in solid effort every day, think on their feet and really earn their pay. Unfortunately, people like that are not as common as you would hope.
 
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Our Model 3 delivery experience was horrible. The DS told us to pick it up in Fremont on such-and-such a day. (It was early January.) We had four days' notice. January is a busy month for me, and four days' notice was impossible to spend a whole day on the road to get our car. I asked either to (a) postpone the delivery until much later in the month or (b) arrange for home delivery if possible.

The DS placed me on hold, and then said that it was approved for home delivery one week later.

The car never arrived. I called late in the afternoon of the scheduled delivery day, and my car could not be located. Now I was upset. Tesla had our money AND the car at an undisclosed and unknown location. The DS said to be patient (perhaps not the best solution.) I requested to speak with a supervisor, and the DS promised to return my call within an hour.

Anyway, he said that they finally found the car, and that it would be delivered three days later. Fine.

When the car arrived, it was filthy. It was hard to determine if there were any defects with the vehicle. No license plate frames were attached.

No one on the phone could help us. I finally called our nearest service center to ask if we could bring the car in to get it detailed, have the license plate frames attached, and inspected for any defects. The SC was most obliging, and luckily for us there were no defects that we could see.

Tesla had no record of receiving our trade-in, and that issue took another 10 days to resolve before we had access to the M3 on our phone app.

Then, we never received our license plates from DMV. I waited three hours at a distant DMV in May (125 days after delivery) to complete the paperwork and get replacement plates.

It seemed to me that there is something wrong with Tesla's system of tracking inventory that is sold and something else wrong with the training and problem resolution for botched deliveries.

So, any ideas as to what happened? Thank you in advance!
 
Our Model 3 delivery experience was horrible. The DS told us to pick it up in Fremont on such-and-such a day. (It was early January.) We had four days' notice. January is a busy month for me, and four days' notice was impossible to spend a whole day on the road to get our car. I asked either to (a) postpone the delivery until much later in the month or (b) arrange for home delivery if possible.

The DS placed me on hold, and then said that it was approved for home delivery one week later.

The car never arrived. I called late in the afternoon of the scheduled delivery day, and my car could not be located. Now I was upset. Tesla had our money AND the car at an undisclosed and unknown location. The DS said to be patient (perhaps not the best solution.) I requested to speak with a supervisor, and the DS promised to return my call within an hour.

Anyway, he said that they finally found the car, and that it would be delivered three days later. Fine.

When the car arrived, it was filthy. It was hard to determine if there were any defects with the vehicle. No license plate frames were attached.

No one on the phone could help us. I finally called our nearest service center to ask if we could bring the car in to get it detailed, have the license plate frames attached, and inspected for any defects. The SC was most obliging, and luckily for us there were no defects that we could see.

Tesla had no record of receiving our trade-in, and that issue took another 10 days to resolve before we had access to the M3 on our phone app.

Then, we never received our license plates from DMV. I waited three hours at a distant DMV in May (125 days after delivery) to complete the paperwork and get replacement plates.

It seemed to me that there is something wrong with Tesla's system of tracking inventory that is sold and something else wrong with the training and problem resolution for botched deliveries.

So, any ideas as to what happened? Thank you in advance!

I can't really speak much for M3 deliveries, but I know that they were a total *sugar* show (Sorry for cursing). It was quite literally the definition of growing pains. They're probably no longer delivered like this, but I do apologize about that.

As far as trade ins, they rarely get lost in the ether.

The mobile app for M3 didn't roll out when people took delivery.

Advice for the future: Don't be the first in line for these kinds of things. Let the growing pains get figured out first so you can have a seamless experience.
 
I was just depressed going to work every day. Getting berated by clients over things not in my control, low pay, stressful work environment (alcohol became my best friend at night), never ending work hours, etc.

Sorry to hear that. What were the things you were berated for? Panel alignment, scratches, rescheduled deliveries, etc? What percentage of new Tesla owners would you say are generally reasonable and understanding vs. snobs/a$$holes when issues come up at delivery?
 
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Here's a question I've wondered after reading the forums here-- what % of customers are PITA's at delivery and what's the most ridiculous demand a customer has made of you or the stupidest reason for rejecting a delivery.

I'd say 20% are pains. I had so many customers demand cars being driven to their home to take delivery (There's almost never enough man power for that), a guy bring a flashlight and spend 4 hours combing all of the paint to see any minor clear coat mark (rejected delivery due to a 1mm defect), people being entitled pricks in general... i could go on and on. No offense intended- but the PITA's were usually the base model customers who were just in the tax bracket to afford the vehicle, or celebrities that are used to getting anything and everything they want.

I had a Christian fellow not take delivery once because the red color was too red and the street name we were on reminded him of an Arabic word.