LR3 is too efficient

[Chancellor32]

But for realz its nuts how efficient this car is! 325 might actually be 300ish in good driving conditions. Coming from a S60 that used energy like a ford bronco sucks gas I have to deliberatly drive super hard to get my WH/MI over 280. Whats everyones lifetime wh/mi at?

 

[scottm]

Ya, I've got both cars too. Our 3 is AWD with 19" and even so...

We just took the 3 on a trip that used 75% (one way) that my S85 would have a tough time squeaking in at 90-100% for that same leg -- maybe juuust making it but putting me into anxiety mode.

We have metric here... so I see 140 Wh/km on the highway in the model 3.
And typically 200 Wh/km with the S85.
HVAC off.

The 3 with aerohub 18" would be even nuttier.

Gas is so dead. Range is not an issue.

 

[woodisgood]

Now that it’s warming up efficiency is heading back up.

215-225 wh/mi is pretty typical for us, mostly highway driving. 231 lifetime since Aug ‘18, but that will come down with a full summer’s worth of high efficiency.

 

[gilscales]

But for realz its nuts how efficient this car is! 325 might actually be 300ish in good driving conditions. Coming from a S60 that used energy like a ford bronco sucks gas I have to deliberatly drive super hard to get my WH/MI over 280. Whats everyones lifetime wh/mi at?

throw some sticky 265's on it, that should do it!

 

[MXWing]

Wait till you plug your car in at a v3 supercharger and get ridiculous charging speed.

Also, new firmware seems to hold higher charging rates for longer as well on regular superchargers!

 

[duanra]

Driving an MR, yesterday going to work, was about 8c outside. Didn't need the heater. I couldn't believe the screen when it went down to 105 w. Driving in the city between 60 to 80 km...I bought my car during the winter, so it was a nice surprise...

 

[gilscales]

Wait till you plug your car in at a v3 supercharger and get ridiculous charging speed.

Also, new firmware seems to hold higher charging rates for longer as well on regular superchargers!

Which firmware? enquiring minds want to know.

 

[opiuman]

Lifetime is 211 Wh/mile for me for 13k miles. Lowest lifetime was 204 right before winter hit. Some hills but mostly 50/50 local/freeway miles. California though which helps.

 

[gilscales]

20,000 miles in a little over 10 months, 40% road trips or we would be much lower than 248 lifetime, with 19" sport wheels

 

[ranss12]

A picture is worth a thousand words. 20,269 miles since new in June.
50% interstate miles at 70+ mph. Incidentally, last full charge a couple of days ago showed 310 miles.

 

[MXWing]

Which firmware? enquiring minds want to know.

Friend on 2019.5.15 said he got an extra 10% charging at 72kw on an urban charger before it began to taper off.

Hope he is not wrong or I heard wrong. I will
check again.

 

[gilscales]

Friend on 2019.5.15 said he got an extra 10% charging at 72kw on an urban charger before it began to taper off.

Hope he is not wrong or I heard wrong. I will
check again.

Have not charged at an Urban charger so even with my update I would not be able to confirm or deny that one, I will be on the lookout next time I use a SC for when the taper starts now.

 

[Aellinsar]

A picture is worth a thousand words. 20,269 miles since new in June.
50% interstate miles at 70+ mph. Incidentally, last full charge a couple of days ago showed 310 miles.
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The picture is worth a lot, but I wish I could understand how you get that. Whenever I'm on a 70+ mph freeway, I'm in the 260's even with good weather. 220's is ~60 mph driving for me.

 

[dcdttu]

LR RWD with 19" Sport here. Mostly drive in the city (Austin). So far I'm at 251Wh/m over about 7,500 miles.

Fun fact: A full battery in a LR Model 3 has the equivalent energy of about 2.2 gallons of gas. So basically, the Model 3 is so efficient that it can drive 325 miles on the energy of slightly more than TWO GALLONS of gasoline. (Link) EVs aren't cheaper to operate because electricity is cheaper than gas, they're cheaper to operate because they're ridiculously efficient.

 

[tread]

LR RWD with 19" Sport here. Mostly drive in the city (Austin). So far I'm at 251Wh/m over about 7,500 miles.

Fun fact: A full battery in a LR Model 3 has the equivalent energy of about 2.2 gallons of gas. So basically, the Model 3 is so efficient that it can drive 325 miles on the energy of slightly more than TWO GALLONS of gasoline. (Link) EVs aren't cheaper to operate because electricity is cheaper than gas, they're cheaper to operate because they're ridiculously efficient.

I'm in Austin as well, LR RWD with 18" aeros (caps always off). Currently with 6200 miles sitting at 270 Wh/mi. Before the cold weather came around I was sitting at 252 Wh/mi, so I imagine it should even out by the end of spring.

I slam the pedal quite often. Even at 252 with driving aggressively on surface roads, I'd say that's pretty good.

 

[billh13850]

Gas is so dead. Range is not an issue.

We need a "nominate for best post" button.

 

[brobinson]

I picked up my car last May and had a lifetime average of around 230ish Wh/Mi. Up to 258 thanks to winter

 

[SSedan]

LR RWD with 19" Sport here. Mostly drive in the city (Austin). So far I'm at 251Wh/m over about 7,500 miles.

Fun fact: A full battery in a LR Model 3 has the equivalent energy of about 2.2 gallons of gas. So basically, the Model 3 is so efficient that it can drive 325 miles on the energy of slightly more than TWO GALLONS of gasoline. (Link) EVs aren't cheaper to operate because electricity is cheaper than gas, they're cheaper to operate because they're ridiculously efficient.

First I am a Tesla owner and fan.
Second I hate to see people spew bad info for good reasons because then when you try and make points to thoughtful people they will dismiss all you say based on bad details.

In a gas car the inefficient energy conversion happens in the car, believe current ICE are 35-38% efficient.
State of the art natural gas power plants are 60% efficient and then we have transmission and charging losses not seen at the actual vehicle.

ICE will always take more power to go down the road because of the cooling needs being aerodynamically bad, but let us be HONEST about the fact electrical generation is inefficient too and we just don't see it in the car like you do with an ICE. This doesn't mean the inefficiency doesn't exist, just doesn't show up at the car.

 

[Hans L]

I'm at 248 Wh/mi. 7,200 miles to date. I live on a hill requiring about a 600' elevation gain, 8% grade - really spikes the usage returning home!

 

[StealthP3D]

In a gas car the inefficient energy conversion happens in the car, believe current ICE are 35-38% efficient.

Nope. Real world efficiency of tank to wheels of 25%, best case scenario. We won't talk about idling in traffic, cold starts, etc.

You also forgot a whole 'nother line of inefficiencies of gas cars, namely, how do you think that gas got in your tank? Because it didn't magically appear on the scene out of nowhere.

1) pumped from the ground.
2) transported to a refinery.
3) refined from crude into gasoline (refineries consume so much electricity they have their own power substations).
4) transported to a gas station.
5) pumped into your tank.

EV's are a heck of a lot more efficient than ICE cars, it's not fake news.