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Maine–Québec Electric Vehicle Corridor Initiative

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  1. Robert.Boston

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    This could be important:

    Governor LePage and Quebec Premier Couillard Announce Electric Vehicle Corridor Initiative


     
  2. Gwgan

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    Stumbled across minutes from a June 22nd Efficiency Maine Trust meeting http://www.efficiencymaine.com/docs/EMT-Board-Minutes-6.22.2016.pdf where the corridor was discussed.

    Some funds were not spent in time and are being allocated elsewhere with an understanding they will return later.

    Seven fast charging sites will be sought, first along ME Route 201. There seems to be a little confusion about the charging “standards”, such as they are.
    The next meeting is 9/21 Efficiency Maine Trust Board Meeting - Efficiency Maine
     
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    Thanks for the update. About a month ago I tried to figure out what happened to that project, it had gone very quiet then.
     
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    " Ms. Smith said that Tesla’s charging stations can accommodate various EV models with an adapter, "

    I think she's got it backwards. Tesla cars have adapters for non-Supercharger stations. I've yet to hear how a Nissan Leaf or a Chevy Volt could ever plug into a Supercharger.
     
  6. RiverBrick

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    There's a deadline quickly approaching in Maine for commenting on parts of the plan:

    http://www.maine.gov/energy/pdf/_RFI#201608160-Quebec-Maine-Electric-Vehicle-Charging-Corridor.pdf

    There was a press release in Quebec today, perhaps there was a parallel one in Maine as well. Confirming information in the document linked to by Gwgan, phase one of the plan is the Portland, ME to Quebec City corridor.

    Montreal to Maine and a coastal route could come later.

    As far as new deployment in Quebec is concerned, they only mention Stanstead in Spring 2017 to serve travel to and from New England. Otherwise, they seem to think the existing infrastructure is already sufficient.

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    This proposal looks like it would extend the fast DC charging infrastructure already in place in QC. What is it about the Maine economy that there is not already a Sun Country or Circuit Electrique like company filling in the charging network like there is in Canada so the state government has to be involved? It is legal to resell electricity here so a charger does not even have to be a loss-leader attractant for a business.
     
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    As of 9/8 the proposals are listed for review Governor's Energy Office: News & Events

    IMO, ABB put the best foot foreword.

    I wonder though if travel through a rural areas such as this should really just target cars with reasonable range (200 miles, not 50); that it is not worth trying to stimulate EV adoption by funding infrastructure for short distance cars in an area with winding mountain roads, Winter, no cell service, and few towns. Once the Bolt and Model 3 are on the roads, the previously produced small crop of short-range cars will soon be a forgotten fleet.
     
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    A new section of Autoroute 73 is set to open within a week which allows one to bypass the city traffic in Beauceville and most of St-Georges. Depending on the time of day, it should save you 15-30 minutes between Maine and Quebec City.

    The current GoogleMaps path is in blue. You can see the soon-to-be-opened A73 segment on the right. Where you would turn off 204/173 to reach A73 goes right past this CHAdeMO location: Les Pères Nature | Saint-Georges, QC | Electric Car Charging Station | PlugShare

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    Executive summary from the Efficiency Maine board had this mention of ongoing review of received proposals
    Source: http://www.efficiencymaine.com/docs/Executive-Directors-Report-09.21.16.pdf
     
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    The Mayors' Coalition Electric Vehicle Forum happened in Augusta, ME https://teslamotorsclub.com/tmc/posts/1801595/ . About three dozen people attended. Basically laid out the problem of needing some high speed chargers and identified approaches. The solutions will come in future meetings and discussions made possible by bringing these people together. As for the fast-charger corridor, Quebec wants it done last year. Money may be available from the VW settlement but not until late 2017, which is considered too late so private/public partnerships will be pursued.
    Other points: municipalities can reduce their fleet costs significantly with Leaf leases, Drive and Ride programs with demos and loaners helps promote EV adoption.
    Audience of municipal and businesss leaders had concerns about range, having to reducing cabin heating in winter, and home charging issues. Longer range BEV’s will be welcome. 2017 Leaf at EPA 107 is not quite enough for rural areas; 50 miles in cold is not enough but 4x typical driving would be (200+). I heard the term Range Confidence for the first time.
    Parking lot: Leaf, i3, Model X, Volt, and more ‘EV’s so this was mostly an experienced crowd.
     
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    Thanks for the update. EVgo will not issue a membership card to anyone with a Canadian address. Until they change this policy they should be excluded from bidding on any part of this contract.
     
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    A LEAF driver in Quebec wrote the Maine Governor's office and the response seems to mean nothing new until 2018 or later. They pointed to public CHAdeMO that already exists from Portland to Augusta (mostly Nissan dealers?) but said they will have to get creative for the rest due to lack of funding. Are they holding out for the VW settlement?
     
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    Lots of things in Maine have a lack of funding.

    And manufacturers apparently shouldn't do infrastructure...
     
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    #16 divesturner, Jun 1, 2017
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    I drove this exact route (Augusta SC to Quebec city) last summer in an S60D. Could not make the full route but used a Chademo at a market and restaurant in St-Georges QC to bridge the gap. A larger battery can make this trip in the summer, but there is no hope in the middle of winter. I was forced to travel a different route through NH and VT in late December / early January. Quebec has a great network of chargers, supplied by hydro power but you need to acquire their membership card in advance.
     
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    Seems like a pretty easy route to enable. A supercharger in Jackman would do it for Teslas, and a CHAdeMO there would do it for everyone else. Not sure why they need an "initiative".
     
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    I am not completely understanding the VW program criteria. Is it only Interstates, only high traffic corridors (Interstate or not) or only Interstates meeting some minimum traffic requirement?
     

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