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re Rotenburg/Finland: I haven't determined whether he truly has citizenship or just a passport. In the US, the latter are provided only to the former...I believe. Still awaiting input from a Finn on this.
 
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- Warren seems to be *a lot* weaker politically. She wasn't bold enough to endorse Bernie in 2016 but rather waited and endorsed Hillary instead.
- Warren also constantly champions the bad impact of money in politics but will take corporate PAC money in the generals. She also funneled her Senate race money containing corp. PAC money into her 2020 campaign and is surrounding herself with some questionable PAC actors.
- Although this is, of course, not in her control, the fact that Neera Tanden is speaking positively about her (repeatedly and repeatedly) seems a bit suspicious to me (the same Neera Tanden that is the president of the pro-establishment think thank Center for American progress; the same Neera Tanden that met in secret with Nancy Pelosi, Chuck Schumer, Pete Buttigieg, et al to discuss how to stop Bernie).
- Again, while this is not in her control at all, her recent very positive coverage in the media where she seems to be used as an argument to discredit Bernie is also looking a bit weird to me.
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Given the last 24h, I've decided to pause my lurking and revisit my first post on this website. This 'news' was just dropped by CNN:

Bernie Sanders told Elizabeth Warren in private 2018 meeting that a woman can't win, sources say - CNNPolitics

Given that Bernie heavily encouraged Warren to run against Clinton in 2016 and only decided to run himself after she decided not to - this is almost certainly a disgusting lie.

"The description of that meeting is based on the accounts of four people: two people Warren spoke with directly soon after the encounter, and two people familiar with the meeting."

This, in my opinion, makes it highly probable that this story is originating from the Warren campaign. If Warren does not speak out against this, just like her comunications director didn't ("Warren's communications director Kristen Orthman declined to comment."), it unfortunately underlines the suspicion that I outlined in my quoted post: the opportunistic nature of her campaign.

Didn't want to ruin this amazing day of TSLA breaking through 500, so I also wanted thank all of the posters here that continue to push against the anti-progressive nature of the US media and politics. Seeing the type of YouTube channels and tweets that get posted here and the arguments that are being made in favor of policies such as the GND are very encouraging to see!

Crossing my fingers for a positive primary. :)
 
It's quite possible that Bernie has no personal issue with a woman president, but after Hillary's loss in 2016 came to the conclusion that the US electorate isn't ready for a woman president. Hillary asserted that at least one reason for her loss in 2016 was misogyny. There are some people, mostly members of socially conservative religious groups, who don't believe a woman should be head of state, but most of those people vote Republican anyway.

I don't think there is as much resistance to a woman getting elected as some people think. Some people judge the same behavior between men and women differently. A bold man is seen as strong, but a woman doing the same thing is seen in a more negative light. However, I think many of these people don't have any deep seated ideals against a woman president and if the right combination of character and policy came along, they would vote for her. Polls have shown Michelle Obama would have done very well if she had decided to run. But she knows better.
 
It's quite possible that Bernie has no personal issue with a woman president, but after Hillary's loss in 2016 came to the conclusion that the US electorate isn't ready for a woman president. Hillary asserted that at least one reason for her loss in 2016 was misogyny. There are some people, mostly members of socially conservative religious groups, who don't believe a woman should be head of state, but most of those people vote Republican anyway.

I don't think there is as much resistance to a woman getting elected as some people think. Some people judge the same behavior between men and women differently. A bold man is seen as strong, but a woman doing the same thing is seen in a more negative light. However, I think many of these people don't have any deep seated ideals against a woman president and if the right combination of character and policy came along, they would vote for her. Polls have shown Michelle Obama would have done very well if she had decided to run. But she knows better.

Methinks she doth protest too much.

 
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Toxic emissions should absolutely be regulated away. Should have happened a long time ago. Market is slow and stupid.

If we weren't subsidizing oil like crazy for the past 40 years, the market would have taken care of this already.

Sorry, but I'm very much a "government keep your hands off" except for nacent technologies that need to be incubated. Solar and wind were that way, but now they are cost competitive enough that I'm happy to see their tax incentives expire over the next few years.
 
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If we weren't subsidizing oil like crazy for the past 40 years, the market would have taken care of this already.

Sorry, but I'm very much a "government keep your hands off" except for nacent technologies that need to be incubated. Solar and wind were that way, but now they are cost competitive enough that I'm happy to see their tax incentives expire over the next few years.

The market cannot price toxic emissions among other things, 'externalities' - environmental, health, ecological costs etc can only be addressed by governmental bodies and mitigated by regulation.
 
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If we weren't subsidizing oil like crazy for the past 40 years, the market would have taken care of this already.
Maybe. A certain amount of computational power advances needed to take place before motor control and battery management was sophisticated enough. Chip speed and circuit board fabrication advances were driven by other industries.
Sorry, but I'm very much a "government keep your hands off" except for nacent technologies that need to be incubated. Solar and wind were that way, but now they are cost competitive enough that I'm happy to see their tax incentives expire over the next few years.
No, incentives for renewables will only speed the transition. Our power grid cannot transition quickly enough.
 
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Given the last 24h, I've decided to pause my lurking and revisit my first post on this website. This 'news' was just dropped by CNN:

Bernie Sanders told Elizabeth Warren in private 2018 meeting that a woman can't win, sources say - CNNPolitics

Given that Bernie heavily encouraged Warren to run against Clinton in 2016 and only decided to run himself after she decided not to - this is almost certainly a disgusting lie.

"The description of that meeting is based on the accounts of four people: two people Warren spoke with directly soon after the encounter, and two people familiar with the meeting."

This, in my opinion, makes it highly probable that this story is originating from the Warren campaign. If Warren does not speak out against this, just like her comunications director didn't ("Warren's communications director Kristen Orthman declined to comment."), it unfortunately underlines the suspicion that I outlined in my quoted post: the opportunistic nature of her campaign.

Didn't want to ruin this amazing day of TSLA breaking through 500, so I also wanted thank all of the posters here that continue to push against the anti-progressive nature of the US media and politics. Seeing the type of YouTube channels and tweets that get posted here and the arguments that are being made in favor of policies such as the GND are very encouraging to see!

Crossing my fingers for a positive primary. :)

Shaun King on Twitter

"Wow.

Just spoke to a source who told me that Elizabeth Warren admittedly "embellished" the words of @BernieSanders to her friends after her meeting with him in 2018, saying that Bernie said a woman couldn't win, but that he never actually said those words.

Disgusting."

Warren is done.
 
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One, a follow-up. The Finnish court rejected Rotenberg's case, saying that as he does not reside in an EU state he has no standing.

Two, a slightly different question re US elections, one that absolutely affects Tesla and TSLA. Has anyone a (fact-based, pleeeease) knowledge of the extent to which, if any, Mr Bloomberg influences, is agnostic to, recuses or has any other action/inaction to the goings-on at Bloomberg News? Like him or despise him, the extent to which he makes headway as a candidate will make the answer to that question increasingly important.
 
Rick Wilson is a former Republican strategist who made many an attack ad against Democrats over the years. He now admits he was blind to the toxicity growing within the GOP and he's doing everything he can now to stop Trump and the cancer that has eaten the Republican Party. Along with Steve Schmidt and George Conway he started the Lincoln Project who already have ads up going after members of Congress who have been too cozy with Trump.

He raised the alarm last night on Brian Williams show about Bernie Sanders. He has said in the past he respects Bernie Sanders, but his history and politics is a very deep vein for the remaining slime throwers working for the GOP to mine. One of the biggest divides politically in the United States between those born before about 1980 and those born after is the meaning of the term "socialist". Those born after 1980 don't really remember the Soviet Union, it fell apart while they were children or before they were born. Their formative years were in the post Soviet era.

For those born before 1980, even for those who are deep down lefties, the term "socialist" has been linked to communism and all the bad memes about it we were bombarded with during the cold war. Those of us who think it through know that there is a big difference between western European socialistic democracy and the USSR, but for a large number of older Americans who have never really thought about it, their system is loading with negative memes about "socialism" that can be reactivated with the right ad campaign. Political advertisers who know how to hit those limbic buttons want Bernie to be the Democratic nominee because they will have older independents cowering in the corner about the new red menace in a few weeks of advertising blitz.

The right wing media have also been working to conflate socialism with failed states like Venezuela. As memes go it's not a big move to add that into the mix because the USSR failed.

Those who are immune to those memes don't realize how powerful they are among the older population. Europeans don't have these triggers because they have been exposed to social democracy their entire lives and there is a different meaning between socialism and communism. I believe there were business interests in the US who wanted to stop the growth of social democracy in the US so they helped cultivate the memes conflating socialism and communism.

The younger generations are also more immune to this kind of messaging because they have grown up in the new media environment and older generations came to it as adults.

I was watching a history video on YouTube the other day that was looking at the history of television, but he started with the telegraph as the genesis of the modern communication revolution. He mentioned in passing that some historical scholars have asserted that the invention of the telegraph contributed to the US Civil War. Information began to flow far faster than it did and it started ripples through culture that destabilized the fragile balance between Southern slave holders and the north where attitudes on slavery varied, but were rarely positive.

100 years later the Jim Crow laws in the South were forced off the books by the Civil Rights Act in the first decade after TV began to penetrate American homes.

Today we're in quite possibly the biggest communication revolution in human history. Anybody can tune into what's happening live on the other side of the world and watch it on their phone. For those who were stung by this new media early in life, often via rumors passed around social media when they were in school, they are much more skeptical of the stuff pumped at them.

For those who grew up without computers, it's very different. I used computers a little in high school, and finally got one of my own part way through college (I actually built it myself to save money). I have many friends older than I am and my parents were born i the 1920s. I have had to talk all of them down off the ledge at some point because of some fake news they came across. My father isn't on the internet anymore (he will be 100 next month, but his body is wearing out fast), but for years he would forward me things other people sent him with "proof" about this or that right wing cause. I would routinely shred them and point out where it was BS. Another early boomer friend calls about once a month with some call she got from the IRS or some other scam and she's all worked up that she's getting audited for income that she never made or something.

As time goes on and the older generations pass on and the electorate is made up more and more of those born after computers became common, democracy might make it, but right now democracy itself is under assault from bad actors manipulating the minds of the older population (who are more reliable voters) with meme play coming at them from directions they didn't see coming.
 
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He raised the alarm last night on Brian Williams show about Bernie Sanders. He has said in the past he respects Bernie Sanders, but his history and politics is a very deep vein for the remaining slime throwers working for the GOP to mine. One of the biggest divides politically in the United States between those born before about 1980 and those born after is the meaning of the term "socialist". Those born after 1980 don't really remember the Soviet Union, it fell apart while they were children or before they were born. Their formative years were in the post Soviet era.

For those born before 1980, even for those who are deep down lefties, the term "socialist" has been linked to communism and all the bad memes about it we were bombarded with during the cold war. Those of us who think it through know that there is a big difference between western European socialistic democracy and the USSR, but for a large number of older Americans who have never really thought about it, their system is loading with negative memes about "socialism" that can be reactivated with the right ad campaign. Political advertisers who know how to hit those limbic buttons want Bernie to be the Democratic nominee because they will have older independents cowering in the corner about the new red menace in a few weeks of advertising blitz.
Personally I'd rather Bernie describe himself as a FDR Democrat or even an Eisenhower Republican. I was born be for FDR died.
 
Haven’t been paying too close attention to the whole Bernie/Warren thing but this idea came into my mind. Think this is strategic. Bernie really is too old. But Warren sees Bernie doing well in the primaries and potentially getting the Dem nomination. So, I think she is jockeying for the VP slot. Whether after 4 or 8 years of Bernie, she would have some great experience running the Senate as VP and might actually get something done. And that would set her up great to run for Prez.
 
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