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The party machine in cooperation with the media shaped the outcome as they intended. Shady activities in the early primaries and biased media coverage set things up for the turn around.

Nobody in the Democratic party, including most of the candidates wanted to see the Democrats to remain balkanized late into the primaries like what happened to the Republicans in 2016 until it was too late.

Meaning they were afraid of a non party line candidate winning the nomination, the way Trump did, so they circled the wagons.
 
The party machine in cooperation with the media shaped the outcome as they intended. Shady activities in the early primaries and biased media coverage set things up for the turn around.



Meaning they were afraid of a non party line candidate winning the nomination, the way Trump did, so they circled the wagons.

The one example we have of a party outsider coming in and taking the nomination resulted in a narrow win, but a disastrous presidency. Additionally Bernie has described himself as a socialist for decades, there are thousands of instances oppo ads can use to paint Bernie as a commie/socialist using his own words.

Rick Wilson knows the Republican play book and he knows exactly how he would play against Bernie in a general election. The Republican slime machine is very, very good at turning any characteristic into a liability. And polls from this year still show a bias against a socialist among American voters.
Socialism and Atheism Still U.S. Political Liabilities

There is massive anxiety within the Democratic party to get rid of Donald Trump and finding a candidate who has a few exploitable liabilities as possible was a key element. In 2016 there was some bias against Bernie within the establishment because the Party leadership had a fair number of 1st gen feminists who felt 2016 was Hillary's year and they did not want to see a man swoop in and take the nomination from her.

This year the landscape is very different. The anxiety that Donald Trump can get re-elected is sky high and any candidate with liabilities that can be exploited by the slime machine are keeping the leadership up at night. There were no candidates with no liabilities, but in the poll posted above, the biggest liability in a candidate is being a socialist. Being an Atheist is less of a liability.

For the younger and furthest left of the population, the term socialist has pretty much the same meaning as it does in western Europe. But for people over 50 and especially those over 50 who are not extreme left (which is around 90% of the over 50 crowd) there are still active memes in there conflating socialist with communist and the "Evil Empire" of the USSR. That's a ripe field for the slime machine to sow their seeds.

Anyone who has been in politics the last 40 years knows that Bernie's socialism would be a major issue in the general election. The majority of voters likely to turn out are over 45. Remind them constantly that Bernie is a socialist and remind them of the old memes tying socialism to communism and/or failed experiments like Venezuela and a lot of that crowd will hold their nose and vote for Trump.

A large percentage of general election voters don't know anything about policy and don't care. They are moved by emotion. Convince enough of them that Bernie is a communist take over and they will vote against him.

I expect the liability of being a self proclaimed socialist will weaken with time. The younger generations who came of age after the end of the USSR don't have those memes. It's a major cultural dividing line between the generations. In another 10 years or so someone like Bernie can run without their opponents being able to get enough traction with the old memes to derail their candidacy, but now is not that time.
 
First, we do have a choice ~ every step of the way!

My STUPID scale changes all the time. Current scale.

Level minus Zero = Inject poison as an optional cure for CoronaViris. Republican opportunity to determine just how faithful their followers are.:mad:

Level Zero = born stupid.:(

Level one = Take little yellow pills to deliberately make themselves stupid.:oops:

Level two = Take little yellow pills to deliberately make themselves stupid and take blue pills to rise to the top.;)

True story. About two years ago I collapsed and my wife called 911. Combination of hot bath, low blood pressure and glass of red wine. One of the paramedics asked as I was coming around if I had taken a little blue pill. I replied, "NO, I am not Republican.":eek:

Another True Story or two. While teaching at Pierce Community College, in Washington; I observed a female student in a red shirt, with blue suspenders and white stars. Instead of going home saddened by the display of hatred; I began telling my students that they could rise up to become anything they wanted to become. Over time I had three female students come out of the fog and pursue their glory. I had two black women feel stronger about themselves; and I kept an outspoken racist from failing my class.

If you want glory, then my life will not get you there; but then it is my life. FYI ~ I left the manual on life behind when I was born; hoping to get a head-start:cool:

Also, if you are willing! I will charge your Tesla for free so you can go tell Bubba Bump-Stock to stop with the firing all-ready. Who knows, maybe his little contribution to society will be the cure to Corona-virus. I could use the quiet though.

My choices are one step in front of the other as I move forward.:D
 
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Let me be perfectly clear if not already self evident, I am a hypocrite. Further, we are about to throw out two well-marinated rib eye steaks from trader Joe's because I am addicted to Costco's prime rib eyes where you can actually see evidence how the cow died from eating too much cholesterol creating feed. For the duration I will not permit my wife to go out foraging to Costco so will just have to wait. Further, further, my wife is trying to be a better Buddhist by eschewing meat from time to time since she is committed to not harming another sentient being. Her example is slowly intruding into my consciousness when I eat someone else's muscle. (She and her sister could not eat the flesh of the household pig slaughtered by their dad years ago.)

Our President is reported to like McDonald's hamburgers since before reaching high office "because it is less likely someone might successfully poison me." (Even before becoming president he must have known he was pissing a number of people off, probably creditors, until Putin whispered into the ears of Deutsche Bank.)

But now he has gone over the top by using the national security act to force meat processors to reopen despite the virus and without mandating protections for workers. The Republican contempt for labor has reached a new low, even below a hound dog, to just a hamburger.

Think of that the next time you eat meat. (Courtesy of our muckraking genius, Rachel Maddow.)

We live in vile times. As I noted up-thread, MAGA has become MASA, Make America Sick Again.
 
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While I don't disagree with much of what is being shared here regarding the current state of affairs with the behavior of the American right, if we are being completely honest, over the span of the last several decades, the American left has been no better.

The problem, at least how I see it, is that we tend to vilify behavior that is opposed to our basic beliefs while applauding those that support our basic beliefs, even when both are equally flawed and devicive.

It's a terribly broken system and until we can break the stranglehold the 2 party system has on America, we can't expect anything but corruption and contempt to rule the day. We have sunk into a society that functions (or doesn't) on political posturing to maintain the status quo, to shift political power one way or the other.

What we need is a good old Elon Musk approach of first principal thinking. Focus on the problems and shed the preconceived notions of "how it's done" or "you scratch my back, and I"ll scratch yours" mentality.

The 2 party duopoly that is American politics is the real problem in my view. Left, right, Republican, Democrat, they are each equally reprehensible in the way they go about their business. We are just more tolerant of the side that fits best our notion of social, economic and political priorities.

Sad really.

Dan
 
Think about Mesa Verde. The long held thought has been that the tribes just packed up and walked to land with better water supplies.

What if they suffered a fate similar to Corana-Virus? I doubt that enough evidence exists today to even hope for testing results.

They lived in caves, and bats probably frequented the location.

What if. . .
 
While I don't disagree with much of what is being shared here regarding the current state of affairs with the behavior of the American right, if we are being completely honest, over the span of the last several decades, the American left has been no better.

The problem, at least how I see it, is that we tend to vilify behavior that is opposed to our basic beliefs while applauding those that support our basic beliefs, even when both are equally flawed and devicive.

It's a terribly broken system and until we can break the stranglehold the 2 party system has on America, we can't expect anything but corruption and contempt to rule the day. We have sunk into a society that functions (or doesn't) on political posturing to maintain the status quo, to shift political power one way or the other.

What we need is a good old Elon Musk approach of first principal thinking. Focus on the problems and shed the preconceived notions of "how it's done" or "you scratch my back, and I"ll scratch yours" mentality.

The 2 party duopoly that is American politics is the real problem in my view. Left, right, Republican, Democrat, they are each equally reprehensible in the way they go about their business. We are just more tolerant of the side that fits best our notion of social, economic and political priorities.

Sad really.

Dan

In each party system one party controls the narrative and the other party has to adapt to it to get anywhere. For the last 40 years the Republicans have controlled the narratives and the Democrats have had to go along to get along.

We are in a time when the old party system is falling apart and it's time for a new one. We are in a time much like 1860, 1932 or 1980. The old ways are failing. This should have happened in 2008, things were falling apart then and a new voice with new ideas came along, but the Republican propaganda machine still had enough gas in the tank to derail the new party system from happening, so the next time a Republican had a shot at the White House, we ended up with someone who makes GW Bush look like Gandhi.

The Republican propaganda machine has created a hyper partisan environment similar to 1860. It started on the right, but also formed on the left as a defensive measure.

The lines of division are not as clear geographically though. The urban areas are clearly in one camp, but the rural areas are in the other. This would be untenable for a normal civil war.

In American Character
https://www.amazon.com/American-Cha...ords=american+character&qid=1588164472&sr=8-1

Colin Woodward paints a history of American politics through the lens of the underlying cultures that make up this country. In the last chapter he lays out a recipe for how one party could become the overwhelmingly dominant party and get things done again. He said the Republicans are too inflexible at this point to do it, so it's up to the Democrats.
 
In each party system one party controls the narrative and the other party has to adapt to it to get anywhere. For the last 40 years the Republicans have controlled the narratives and the Democrats have had to go along to get along.

We are in a time when the old party system is falling apart and it's time for a new one. We are in a time much like 1860, 1932 or 1980. The old ways are failing. This should have happened in 2008, things were falling apart then and a new voice with new ideas came along, but the Republican propaganda machine still had enough gas in the tank to derail the new party system from happening, so the next time a Republican had a shot at the White House, we ended up with someone who makes GW Bush look like Gandhi.

The Republican propaganda machine has created a hyper partisan environment similar to 1860. It started on the right, but also formed on the left as a defensive measure.

The lines of division are not as clear geographically though. The urban areas are clearly in one camp, but the rural areas are in the other. This would be untenable for a normal civil war.

In American Character
https://www.amazon.com/American-Cha...ords=american+character&qid=1588164472&sr=8-1

Colin Woodward paints a history of American politics through the lens of the underlying cultures that make up this country. In the last chapter he lays out a recipe for how one party could become the overwhelmingly dominant party and get things done again. He said the Republicans are too inflexible at this point to do it, so it's up to the Democrats.
I would argue that what we need is not one dominant party, but several equal balanced and represented parties with several viable and equally heard candidates for voters to choose from, with congressional term limits and severe limits and total transparency regarding contributions.

...but hey, that's just me.

Dan
 
While I don't disagree with much of what is being shared here regarding the current state of affairs with the behavior of the American right, if we are being completely honest, over the span of the last several decades, the American left has been no better.

The problem, at least how I see it, is that we tend to vilify behavior that is opposed to our basic beliefs while applauding those that support our basic beliefs, even when both are equally flawed and devicive.

It's a terribly broken system and until we can break the stranglehold the 2 party system has on America, we can't expect anything but corruption and contempt to rule the day. We have sunk into a society that functions (or doesn't) on political posturing to maintain the status quo, to shift political power one way or the other.

What we need is a good old Elon Musk approach of first principal thinking. Focus on the problems and shed the preconceived notions of "how it's done" or "you scratch my back, and I"ll scratch yours" mentality.

The 2 party duopoly that is American politics is the real problem in my view. Left, right, Republican, Democrat, they are each equally reprehensible in the way they go about their business. We are just more tolerant of the side that fits best our notion of social, economic and political priorities.

Sad really.

Dan

In 2001 I exercised the option of early retirement designed to get the deadwood of faculty out of the way so the State of California could save money since it no longer cherished our wisdom. A few years ago my old department changed its name from Government to Political Science. Historically when asked about our label, ever seeking a quick laugh, I would answer "we're parochial, like Harvard," but would immediately add, "human affairs cannot be understood without considerations of morality." My graduate instruction at three institutions, including Harvard, insisted on thorough grounding in the history of political thought—the source of my bias.

The argument you make is precisely why so-called Communist regimes justify a one party system and that is the danger of equivalence for admitted progressives like myself. I am not saying you are a communist. What I am saying is a factual statement about what are no longer appropriately called "socialist regimes transitioning to communism." That label does not apply to China nor Vietnam nor even Cambodia and you would probably agree the populations of those countries are better off with mixed economies. I am a partisan, however, and so you will probably dismiss my arguments as such. However, I do protest moral categories can distinguish among political parties, policies, and political systems.

I left MIT graduating in the upper third of the mechanical engineers in 1958 with the determination to make social science more scientific. At first I took a positivist approach for my M.A. After the energy shocks of the 70s, I tried applying thermodynamics and the philosophic principles of quantum mechanics to understanding our times. Lately, in part due to my wife, I'm informed by sayings of Buddha.

Political science is at a primitive state, contributing to why progressive refuse to be called liberals. We have argued for years against pluralism as a positive aspect of the US system. It glosses over the morality issue and justifies unending competition with victory reserved only to the loudest. I have taught that in my classes since as early as 1964.

Dismissing both parties without cause is too simplistic for my aesthetic sensibilities and so I will not illustrate the superiority of one over the other in the interest of moderation, but I could along with more examples of commonality in perfidy than one might imagine.
 
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I would argue that what we need is not one dominant party, but several equal balanced and represented parties with several viable and equally heard candidates for voters to choose from, with congressional term limits and severe limits and total transparency regarding contributions.

...but hey, that's just me.

Dan

What might better and more simply achieved is voting in multiple candidate voting systems by proportional representation. There are advantages and pitfalls of each. The mixed approach of Germany's is probably the best, but so complicated voters there often cannot explain it to me and I've forgotten!
 
Well, seeing the global trouble of two party systems, single party systems, opposition ans coalition systems I'm glad that our constitution abolished one but very important piece of the political puzzle:

The President

Here in Switzerland we have no head of the executive branch. (actually we have but its a ceremonial title with no powers) Instead of that, the seven federal councils are head of the branches of the executive.

The system is politically slow, but it has some surprising advantages
- Continuity, the federal council is never replaced all over, only members which retire.
- No political plays in the executive. They can focus on their job, which is to execute the laws decided in the parliament.
- No election fuss and advertising for presidential election keeps politics calm. (the federal councils are elected by the parliament)

Some links to read up:
Politics of Switzerland - Wikipedia
https://www.thelocal.ch/20170403/ten-things-you-need-to-know-about-the-swiss-political-system

I'm so glad, that our constitution is only inspired by the constitution of the united states and not copied.

The question is, may you people out there in other political systems even imagine to just lose the concept o a sole leader?
 
gotta love anti-universal healthcare, anti-guaranteed living wage, anti-welfare conservatives wringing their hands about people starving.

i'm finding it hilarious how this crisis has suddenly instilled conservatives with a yearning to make personal sacrifices for the greater good.

Sorry for cross-thread quoting you here @Pezpunk but I couldn't bring myself to reply in the general thread.

Elon has undeniably echoed the President's rhetoric with these tweets, but would you really call him an anti-welfare conservative?

At least he seems to be in favor of UBI: Elon Musk: Free cash handouts ‘will be necessary’ if robots take humans' jobs

At this point, it seems like Elon holds both liberal and conservative views, and people on both sides have found a reason to hate him for it.
 
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I would argue that what we need is not one dominant party, but several equal balanced and represented parties with several viable and equally heard candidates for voters to choose from, with congressional term limits and severe limits and total transparency regarding contributions.

...but hey, that's just me.

Dan

Parliamentary systems allow third parties to grow in prominence, but even in most parliamentary systems two parties end up dominating. My SO has advocated for years that we should do away with political parties entirely, but my instinct was human nature wouldn't allow that for long. I did some research and while direct democracies like ancient Athens was able to function with no political parties, every representative democracy in history has had them.

In parliamentary systems like the UK, most of the time the House of Commons is dominated by two parties. Which two parties changes a bit over time, but it's usually two parties. Currently the Tories dominate (365 seats) with Labour as the minority party (202 seats). The third largest party in the chamber is the Scottish National Party with 47 seats. The SNP is, as its name implies, only from one of the countries making up the UK. They currently dominate the ridings from Scotland in the UK parliament.

There has been a lot of criticism of first past the post election systems like we have in the US, and some of the other ideas out there might work. They are being experimented with in other countries now. I also believe we shouldn't have a system that effectively locks out third parties from growing into larger parties. In parliamentary systems there is more room for a third party to grow into a large party if they have a message that is right for the population and the time.

For a representative democracy to be healthy, the two dominant parties need to pretty much line up left of center and right of center. What makes up "center" varies from one country to another. One of the biggest factors that has pulled the US to the right from early on is the Deep South.

Most Americans in the northern US look across the border and find kinship in the English Canadian cultures across the border. But Canadians look south and see an alien landscape. From American Nations and American Character, English speaking Canada and the northern parts of the US have the same mix of cultures (nations is the term used in the book). But Appalachia and the Deep South are cultures unique to the United States.

American political history is a push pull between the coalition centered in New England (the Yankees) and a Southern coalition centered in the Deep South. Until the civil rights movement the Deep Southern whites were heavily Democrats, but FDR weakened their bonds and the civil rights movement completely broke them loose. It took another 20 years for the Republicans to capture them, but when they did, the Republicans had a winning coalition.

With the realignment of 1980, the Democrats took a while to find their bearings. In the early years political scientists didn't realize the shift had happened. When I was in high school in the 1980s we had an excellent history/poli sci teacher who taught us civics. I remember him saying that the Democratic ticket will always need a Southerner on it to win the White House, and the next time a Democrat did win the presidency it was a Southerner (Bill Clinton) and an Appalachian (Al Gore). But by 2008 the Democrats had shifted away from the South winning with Obama/Biden, neither from the South.

Wait until you start seeing all the attack ads coming for Biden, you'll wish the worst they could come up with was "socialist".

There was no Democrat running who wasn't vulnerable to something in an attack ad, but any line of attack Biden just highlights that Trump is worse at the same accusation. Using Biden word flubs against him will unleash a torrent of worse flubs by Trump. Accusing Biden of sexual misconduct will put Trump's misconduct in the spotlight. The organizations that are lined up against Trump probably have the commercials sitting in the can waiting for Trump to attack Biden.

This article about the sexual misconduct allegations points out that Biden has one accuser of assault (though many more of just being too touchy feely), and Trump has 25.

What’s behind the Biden sexual harassment allegation

No attack ads needed. Democrats are going to do enough damage to him before the convention once he gets asked about his sexual assault

Any kind of sexual misconduct allegation is difficult to sort. Men, especially men in power, have a long history of taking advantage of women around them. However, it's not universal. For every Harvey Weinstein there are many more men who respect boundaries and would never do anything to harm a woman.

Men can and do acts of sexual misconduct. It's a real thing. But not every accusation is real. Women can and do make up allegations for revenge or, in some cases notoriety. My SO does domestic violence perpetrator counseling. Usually it's court ordered as diversion from jail. She also has started doing evaluations for court. She is a human lie detector and knows when she's being given a line of BS.

She encounters the occasional psychopath who is not amenable to treatment, and occasionally runs into the guy who thinks his behavior is justified (almost all are an immigrant from a more male dominated society, a member of a very conservative religious group that preaches the male as head of household line, and/or older than 60). The bulk of guys did so something to land themselves in hot water, but it's more driven by a lack of conflict resolution skills and often combined with some form of PTSD. But she also has run into guys who ended up in the system because they married a psycho who thought it would be a good idea to get revenge after an argument by calling 911 and claiming they were assaulted.

When there is a pattern of complaints like Harvey Weinstein, Bill Cosby, and even Donald Trump, there is probably some fire generating that smoke. People with that mindset have a pattern to their behavior and many accusers over many years. It would be absolutely fantastic to catch someone like this the first time, but innocent until proven guilty. And this is a crime that is very hard to prove much of the time. How do we catch the true predators without scooping up even more innocent men who crossed paths with a crazy woman? It's an impossible problem to solve.

There have been many women who have said over the years that Biden touched them when they didn't want to be touched, but Tara Reade is the only one who has come forward saying he did anything more than something like an unwanted hug. It may have happened, but Occam's Razor leans against it because it's so out of pattern for his behavior. I would believe a story that Tara Reade felt uncomfortable because Biden was too huggy or something similar when she dropped off the gym bag. That fits with all the other stories.

Trump is a different story. We have the hot mike episode where he's bragging about assaulting women and we have 25 women so far who have come forward with stories about his sexual assaults on them. If there was just one or two stories about Trump, I would also be leaning against believing the accusations, but with so many coming forward, it could be some kind of conspiracy to make up allegations, but it's unlikely. The more people involved in a conspiracy, the tougher it is to keep it secret.

The two biggest allegations against Biden: his possible dementia and his inappropriate boundaries, are drastically muted by his opponent who is far, far worse in both areas.
 
The difference is the worst of Trump has already been exposed, bringing it up again will do little damage. Plus there is potential disaster if Biden has some senior moments during a debate. Trump knows how to just plow through his own gaffs, though if he comes up with another drink bleach and swallow light bulb moment it could be an issue.
 
Parliamentary systems allow third parties to grow in prominence, but even in most parliamentary systems two parties end up dominating. My SO has advocated for years that we should do away with political parties entirely, but my instinct was human nature wouldn't allow that for long. I did some research and while direct democracies like ancient Athens was able to function with no political parties, every representative democracy in history has had them.

In parliamentary systems like the UK, most of the time the House of Commons is dominated by two parties. Which two parties changes a bit over time, but it's usually two parties. Currently the Tories dominate (365 seats) with Labour as the minority party (202 seats). The third largest party in the chamber is the Scottish National Party with 47 seats. The SNP is, as its name implies, only from one of the countries making up the UK. They currently dominate the ridings from Scotland in the UK parliament.

There has been a lot of criticism of first past the post election systems like we have in the US, and some of the other ideas out there might work. They are being experimented with in other countries now. I also believe we shouldn't have a system that effectively locks out third parties from growing into larger parties. In parliamentary systems there is more room for a third party to grow into a large party if they have a message that is right for the population and the time.

For a representative democracy to be healthy, the two dominant parties need to pretty much line up left of center and right of center. What makes up "center" varies from one country to another. One of the biggest factors that has pulled the US to the right from early on is the Deep South.

Most Americans in the northern US look across the border and find kinship in the English Canadian cultures across the border. But Canadians look south and see an alien landscape. From American Nations and American Character, English speaking Canada and the northern parts of the US have the same mix of cultures (nations is the term used in the book). But Appalachia and the Deep South are cultures unique to the United States.

American political history is a push pull between the coalition centered in New England (the Yankees) and a Southern coalition centered in the Deep South. Until the civil rights movement the Deep Southern whites were heavily Democrats, but FDR weakened their bonds and the civil rights movement completely broke them loose. It took another 20 years for the Republicans to capture them, but when they did, the Republicans had a winning coalition.

With the realignment of 1980, the Democrats took a while to find their bearings. In the early years political scientists didn't realize the shift had happened. When I was in high school in the 1980s we had an excellent history/poli sci teacher who taught us civics. I remember him saying that the Democratic ticket will always need a Southerner on it to win the White House, and the next time a Democrat did win the presidency it was a Southerner (Bill Clinton) and an Appalachian (Al Gore). But by 2008 the Democrats had shifted away from the South winning with Obama/Biden, neither from the South.



There was no Democrat running who wasn't vulnerable to something in an attack ad, but any line of attack Biden just highlights that Trump is worse at the same accusation. Using Biden word flubs against him will unleash a torrent of worse flubs by Trump. Accusing Biden of sexual misconduct will put Trump's misconduct in the spotlight. The organizations that are lined up against Trump probably have the commercials sitting in the can waiting for Trump to attack Biden.

This article about the sexual misconduct allegations points out that Biden has one accuser of assault (though many more of just being too touchy feely), and Trump has 25.

What’s behind the Biden sexual harassment allegation



Any kind of sexual misconduct allegation is difficult to sort. Men, especially men in power, have a long history of taking advantage of women around them. However, it's not universal. For every Harvey Weinstein there are many more men who respect boundaries and would never do anything to harm a woman.

Men can and do acts of sexual misconduct. It's a real thing. But not every accusation is real. Women can and do make up allegations for revenge or, in some cases notoriety. My SO does domestic violence perpetrator counseling. Usually it's court ordered as diversion from jail. She also has started doing evaluations for court. She is a human lie detector and knows when she's being given a line of BS.

She encounters the occasional psychopath who is not amenable to treatment, and occasionally runs into the guy who thinks his behavior is justified (almost all are an immigrant from a more male dominated society, a member of a very conservative religious group that preaches the male as head of household line, and/or older than 60). The bulk of guys did so something to land themselves in hot water, but it's more driven by a lack of conflict resolution skills and often combined with some form of PTSD. But she also has run into guys who ended up in the system because they married a psycho who thought it would be a good idea to get revenge after an argument by calling 911 and claiming they were assaulted.

When there is a pattern of complaints like Harvey Weinstein, Bill Cosby, and even Donald Trump, there is probably some fire generating that smoke. People with that mindset have a pattern to their behavior and many accusers over many years. It would be absolutely fantastic to catch someone like this the first time, but innocent until proven guilty. And this is a crime that is very hard to prove much of the time. How do we catch the true predators without scooping up even more innocent men who crossed paths with a crazy woman? It's an impossible problem to solve.

There have been many women who have said over the years that Biden touched them when they didn't want to be touched, but Tara Reade is the only one who has come forward saying he did anything more than something like an unwanted hug. It may have happened, but Occam's Razor leans against it because it's so out of pattern for his behavior. I would believe a story that Tara Reade felt uncomfortable because Biden was too huggy or something similar when she dropped off the gym bag. That fits with all the other stories.

Trump is a different story. We have the hot mike episode where he's bragging about assaulting women and we have 25 women so far who have come forward with stories about his sexual assaults on them. If there was just one or two stories about Trump, I would also be leaning against believing the accusations, but with so many coming forward, it could be some kind of conspiracy to make up allegations, but it's unlikely. The more people involved in a conspiracy, the tougher it is to keep it secret.

The two biggest allegations against Biden: his possible dementia and his inappropriate boundaries, are drastically muted by his opponent who is far, far worse in both areas.
So you’re saying let’s stick with Biden because although he has a long history of inappropriate touching it’s less than a 50% chance he assaulted his staffer? And even if he did grab her down there, he’s still not as bad as Trump? Why does it have to be the lesser of two evils? With NY cancelling their primary it’s likely Biden won’t have the delegates needed for the first ballot
 
Trump never claimed any high moral ground and after years of New York tabloid stories, any news about his "pecadillos" was more or less expected. He never shot off his mouth virtue signalling.

Biden, Democrats and the lefty media, especially post Kavenaugh, are very susceptible to looking, at the least, hypocritical here.
 
So you’re saying let’s stick with Biden because although he has a long history of inappropriate touching it’s less than a 50% chance he assaulted his staffer? And even if he did grab her down there, he’s still not as bad as Trump? Why does it have to be the lesser of two evils? With NY cancelling their primary it’s likely Biden won’t have the delegates needed for the first ballot

I'm saying it's indeterminate with Biden and pretty clear with Trump. Whether he did it or not, there are only two realistic choices for president. It's impossible to chose a candidate who will be the next president at this point (unless one of the candidates dies or drops out) who has not been accused of sexual assault. The choice is between a candidate who has one accusation vs one that has 25. Additionally the one with 25 accusers political track record is a train wreck while the other has over 40 years of public service with a mix of ups and downs, but has proven he knows how to govern.

If you want any control over who is the next president, you have to hold your nose and vote for one of them. The other option is to throw your vote away on a third party candidate or not vote. That's the reality of the situation.

As for Tara Reade, her story has been inconsistent over time. My SO made the point that no sane prosecutor would touch the case, and if one did, the biggest screw up lawyer in her office could get the case dismissed in 15 minutes in court.

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Evidence Casts Doubt on Tara Reade’s Sexual Assault Allegations of Joe Biden
 
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