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I wrote an email to our new Secretary of State last night. I suggest *everyone* here do the same! [email protected]
I sent my email.
As the SOS recently swapped out their core system, the timing might not have been great for getting their full attention.
Yep, I took my window stick in with me last year and they adjusted to the base price of my model S.On my dual motor Model 3, I was charged registration not only on the dual motor but also AP and FSD (56001E fee category). Has anyone had any success at all getting this fixed after titling? Or is SOS still standing on "we use NADA, too bad?"
That's great to hear - I'm going to try the same thing and will report back. I could live with the dual motor being included, but paint, AP, and FSD are truly options and there's no reasonable interpretation I can conjure that would justify including them in "base price."Yep, I took my window stick in with me last year and they adjusted to the base price of my model S.
Take your original title with you at the same time. If you have paid already, you can request the refund form while you are there.That's great to hear - I'm going to try the same thing and will report back. I could live with the dual motor being included, but paint, AP, and FSD are truly options and there's no reasonable interpretation I can conjure that would justify including them in "base price."
Only remaining step if the SoS visit fails (short of moving out of the state) would be writing legislators. My state rep voted for the EV surcharge legislation so doubt I'll get far writing him. Senator wasn't in office in 2015 so didn't vote on it but is a Dem so it might be worth pursuing with him.
The person I spoke with today said their compliance people told them that they have to use the total price paid if there is no hit on the VIN and suggested I contact NADA. While everyone was nice and helpful to the extent they could be, I'm pretty confident that I would not get any help from NADA.
Thanks! I took a read after and my plain language (i.e. not a "nuanced" one of a lawyer or a policy wonk) says that the "purchase price" can only be used if neither the Monroney sticker ("label required to be affixed . . . 15 USC 1232") nor the price "published" by the SoS (in this case, apparently NADA) are available.Yeah, that is correct, but lame. Base price only applies if it comes from the SOS list, otherwise Monroney or purchase price apply.
Relevent sections of 257.801
fee schedule: (1)(i)(A)
Definition (5)(b):
"List price" means:
- the manufacturer's suggested base list price as published by the secretary of state,
- or the manufacturer's suggested retail price as shown on the label required to be affixed to the vehicle under 15 USC 1232, if the secretary of state has not at the time of the sale of the vehicle published a manufacturer's suggested retail price for that vehicle,
- or the purchase price of the vehicle if the manufacturer's suggested base list price is unavailable from the sources described in this subdivision.
Will do-thanks. Did you ever hear anything from yours?Call and write your state rep
Call and write your state rep
I'm in the Ann Arbor area and will be embarking on this journey in the next couple of weeks. Has anyone had particularly positive or negative experiences at any of the SOS branches in the area?
I have to assume that A2 has one of the higher Tesla concentrations in Michigan, so I'm not sure if that is a benefit or a liability when it comes to getting the coveted "35E" classification. Not sure if going to Ann Arbor or Chelsea branches will be the best bet on this one.
I was a resident of MI for 35 years and boy what a relief when it comes to vehicle registration in Florida! The cost is WAY lower here plus we get the option of 2-year tabs. My Porsches were $444 - $470 in MI. Reg. and vanity plate here less than half for Turbo Porsche.In Michigan the registration fee is based upon the purchase price of the vehicle. Further there is a gas tax recoup value added.
For my P85 with custom plates my renewal is just shy of $600.
AA branch upper level people know about Teslas, and NADA now has fairly reasonable values in their system (which may or may not have caught up with the recent price cuts).I'm in the Ann Arbor area and will be embarking on this journey in the next couple of weeks. Has anyone had particularly positive or negative experiences at any of the SOS branches in the area?
I have to assume that A2 has one of the higher Tesla concentrations in Michigan, so I'm not sure if that is a benefit or a liability when it comes to getting the coveted "35E" classification. Not sure if going to Ann Arbor or Chelsea branches will be the best bet on this one.