Also noticed the RR crossing warning lights are shown as two flashing traffic signals. You'd think they would have a specific graphic for this.
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Minnesota - FSD Beta Videos
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Video #65 - Tesla - FSD Beta 10.69.2 - St Anthony Pkwy UPL Turn
This video contains footage recorded on the evening of September 11th, 2022 of FSD Beta 10.69.2 taking an UPL turn onto St Anthony Pkwy from Johnson St NE (NE Minneapolis). I did a similar video with 10.69.1.1 and while I didn't expect any behavior changes with 10.69.2 I still wanted to re-test & share my results considering this intersection is so close to my house.
00:00 - Intro
00:11 - UPL Turn Onto St Anthony Pkwy (Attempt #1 - Fail)
00:33 - Closing Thoughts
This video contains footage recorded on the evening of September 11th, 2022 of FSD Beta 10.69.2 taking an UPL turn onto St Anthony Pkwy from Johnson St NE (NE Minneapolis). I did a similar video with 10.69.1.1 and while I didn't expect any behavior changes with 10.69.2 I still wanted to re-test & share my results considering this intersection is so close to my house.
00:00 - Intro
00:11 - UPL Turn Onto St Anthony Pkwy (Attempt #1 - Fail)
00:33 - Closing Thoughts
Video #66 - Tesla - FSD Beta 10.69.2 - Columbia Heights (Construction)
This video contains footage recorded on the evening of September 11th, 2022 of FSD Beta 10.69.2 driving me from my home (NE Minneapolis) to Columbia Heights and back. During this drive I was excited to confirm that 1 long-standing navigation-related issue has been resolved thanks to 10.69.x! On top of this, FSD demonstrates some much appreciated confidence when navigating the construction zone on Central Ave NE especially when it comes to the lane redirections. A few disengagements were experienced on this drive however overall I continue to feel 10.69.2 is ready for wide release to the remaining 100k testers.
00:00 - Intro
01:23 - Confirmed Regression w/ 10.69.x - Excessive Hesitation At 2-way Stop At Fillmore St NE & 36th Ave NE
02:36 - Reduced Speed Due To Rough Road Surface
03:03 - Construction Zone - FSD Attempts To Come To Complete Stop For No Apparent Reason
03:16 - Construction Zone - FSD Doing A Great Job Navigating Lane Redirection
03:47 - Construction Zone - FSD Again Doing A Great Job Navigating Lane Redirection
05:05 - Confirmed Regression w/ 10.69.2 - Car Makes Incorrect Lane Change Before Upcoming Left Turn
06:21 - Final Left Turn Before Reaching Destination
06:51 - Start Of Return Trip
07:19 - Disengagement / Persistent Issue - FSD Attempts To Enter & Remain In Shoulder After UPR Turn Onto Central Ave
08:32 - Construction Zone - FSD Changes Into Ending Lane Requiring Driver Intervention
09:25 - Construction Zone - Excessive Hesitation At Lane Redirection
09:38 - Construction Zone - FSD Again Doing A Great Job Navigating Lane Redirection
10:18 - Disengagement - FSD Software Issue Requiring Driver To Take Over
10:32 - Construction Zone - FSD Again Doing A Great Job Navigating Lane Redirection
10:55 - FSD Confidently Executes A Smooth UPL Turn Onto 37th Ave NE
11:33 - Persistent Issue - Incorrect Speed Limit For Residential Streets In Minneapolis
This video contains footage recorded on the evening of September 11th, 2022 of FSD Beta 10.69.2 driving me from my home (NE Minneapolis) to Columbia Heights and back. During this drive I was excited to confirm that 1 long-standing navigation-related issue has been resolved thanks to 10.69.x! On top of this, FSD demonstrates some much appreciated confidence when navigating the construction zone on Central Ave NE especially when it comes to the lane redirections. A few disengagements were experienced on this drive however overall I continue to feel 10.69.2 is ready for wide release to the remaining 100k testers.
00:00 - Intro
01:23 - Confirmed Regression w/ 10.69.x - Excessive Hesitation At 2-way Stop At Fillmore St NE & 36th Ave NE
02:36 - Reduced Speed Due To Rough Road Surface
03:03 - Construction Zone - FSD Attempts To Come To Complete Stop For No Apparent Reason
03:16 - Construction Zone - FSD Doing A Great Job Navigating Lane Redirection
03:47 - Construction Zone - FSD Again Doing A Great Job Navigating Lane Redirection
05:05 - Confirmed Regression w/ 10.69.2 - Car Makes Incorrect Lane Change Before Upcoming Left Turn
06:21 - Final Left Turn Before Reaching Destination
06:51 - Start Of Return Trip
07:19 - Disengagement / Persistent Issue - FSD Attempts To Enter & Remain In Shoulder After UPR Turn Onto Central Ave
08:32 - Construction Zone - FSD Changes Into Ending Lane Requiring Driver Intervention
09:25 - Construction Zone - Excessive Hesitation At Lane Redirection
09:38 - Construction Zone - FSD Again Doing A Great Job Navigating Lane Redirection
10:18 - Disengagement - FSD Software Issue Requiring Driver To Take Over
10:32 - Construction Zone - FSD Again Doing A Great Job Navigating Lane Redirection
10:55 - FSD Confidently Executes A Smooth UPL Turn Onto 37th Ave NE
11:33 - Persistent Issue - Incorrect Speed Limit For Residential Streets In Minneapolis
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Video #67 - Tesla - FSD Beta 10.69.2 - NE Minneapolis Test Loop
This video contains footage recorded on the evening of September 11th, 2022 of FSD Beta 10.69.2 driving me around the full version of my NE Minneapolis Test Loop. The drive started out fairly smooth however shortly after crossing into North Minneapolis we experienced several issues, one of which resulted in a disengagement. Detection of and confidence with VRUs is noticeably improved in 10.69.2 however several problematic behavioral traits still remain which result in some additional disengagements or interventions.
00:00 - Intro
01:03 - Confirmed Regression w/ 10.69.x - Excessive Hesitation At 2-way Stop At Fillmore St NE & 36th Ave NE
01:25 - Persistent Issue - Incorrect Speed Limit For Residential Streets In Minneapolis
01:39 - Human-like Creep For Visibility Behavior Before UPL Turn Onto 37th Ave NE
02:07 - Confirmed Improvement w/ 10.69.x - Ego Car Incorrectly Attempts To Use Turn-Only Lane At 37th Ave NE & Central Ave NE
02:44 - Smooth Deceleration When Approaching 4-way Stop At 37th Ave NE & Madison Pl NE
03:07 - Confirmed Regression w/ 10.69.x - Excessive Hesitation At 4-way Stop At 37th Ave NE & 5th Street NE
03:22 - Issue - Phantom VRUs On 5th Street NE
03:49 - Possible Improvement - FSD Does Better Job Staying To The Right On Wide Unmarked Road
04:10 - Possible Improvement - Confident Behavior w/ Oncoming Bicyclists
04:41 - Possible Improvement - Less Hesitation w/ 3-way Stop At 5th Street NE & St. Anthony Pkwy
05:33 - Persistent Issue - FSD Signals As If It Will Attempt To Enter Oncoming Lane On St Anthony Pkwy
06:16 - Planner Continues To Do Solid Job w/ Placement Of Ego Car On St Anthony Pkwy
06:31 - Possible Improvement - FSD No Longer Heading For Specific Curb On St Anthony Pkwy
07:03 - Turkeys & Deer In Minneapolis!
07:14 - Persistent Issue - FSD Needs To Do A Better Job Aligning Ego Car To Center Line Before Making Left Turns
07:25 - Confirmed Improvement w/ 10.69.2 - Best Posture Yet Of Ego Car When Making UPL Turn Onto 42nd Ave N
08:43 - Issue - Planner Gets Confused When Making UPL Turn Onto Lyndale Ave N
09:05 - Disengagement - Planner Chooses Too Tight Of Line When Making Left Turn Onto Dowling Ave N
09:26 - Persistent Issue - Confusion w/ Lane Selection On Dowling Ave N
09:50 - Confirmed Improvement w/ 10.69.2 - Less Hesitation & Better Posture Before UPR Turn Onto Washington Ave N
11:16 - Confirmed Improvement w/ 10.69.x - FSD Properly Selects Left Lane After Lane Addition Point At Washington Ave N & 26th Ave N
12:01 - Possible Improvement - Additional Confidence When Approaching VRUs
12:35 - Confirmed Improvement w/ 10.69.2 - Improved Creep Behavior When Waiting To Complete UPL Turn Onto Plymouth Ave N
13:42 - Possible Improvement - FSD Properly Detecting Crossing Cyclists From A Distance
13:55 - Issue - FSD Abruptly Braking For Cyclist Waiting To Enter Crosswalk
14:39 - FSD Has Mastered The UPL Left Turn Onto University Ave NE
15:05 - Persistent Issue - FSD Does Not Automatically Treat Out Of Order Traffic Lights As 4-way Stop
15:35 - Persistent Mapping Issue - Car Incorrectly Attempts To Use Right Lane (Time-restricted Parking)
16:25 - New Issue - FSD Not Moving To Right Lane Before Right Turn Onto Lowry Ave NE
16:45 - Disengagement - Planner Fails To Get Into Right Turn Lane & Gets Confused When Trying To Make Right Turn
17:35 - Confirmed Regression w/ 10.69.x - Confusion w/ Lane Selection After Lane Increase Around Lowry Ave NE & Washington St NE
17:51 - Disengagement - FSD Tries To Make A Last Minute Lane Change Right Before Red Light
18:22 - Persistent Issue - FSD Still Decelerates Too Much When Approaching Turning Vehicles
18:48 - Confirmed Improvement w/ 10.69.2 - Improved Creep Behavior When Waiting To Complete UPL Turn Onto Stinson Pkwy
19:03 - Persistent Issue - Excessive Throttle Input After Making UPL Turn Onto Stinson Pkwy
19:40 - Persistent Issue - FSD Incorrectly Aligns Ego Car To Middle Of Wide Unmarked Lane
20:05 - Possible Improvement - Additional Confidence When Approaching VRUs
20:25 - Room For Improvement - Less Hesitation At Empty 4-way Stop At St Anthony Pkwy & 30th Ave NE
21:09 - FSD Confidently Handles UPR Turn Onto Busy Johnson St NE
21:29 - Disengagement / Persistent Issue - Ego Car Unnecessarily Uses Dead Space On Right Before Initiating UPL Turn Onto 36th Ave NE
22:21 - Confirmed Improvement w/ 10.69.2 - Less Hesitation At 2-way Stop At 36th Ave NE & Pierce St NE
22:33 - Closing Thoughts
This video contains footage recorded on the evening of September 11th, 2022 of FSD Beta 10.69.2 driving me around the full version of my NE Minneapolis Test Loop. The drive started out fairly smooth however shortly after crossing into North Minneapolis we experienced several issues, one of which resulted in a disengagement. Detection of and confidence with VRUs is noticeably improved in 10.69.2 however several problematic behavioral traits still remain which result in some additional disengagements or interventions.
00:00 - Intro
01:03 - Confirmed Regression w/ 10.69.x - Excessive Hesitation At 2-way Stop At Fillmore St NE & 36th Ave NE
01:25 - Persistent Issue - Incorrect Speed Limit For Residential Streets In Minneapolis
01:39 - Human-like Creep For Visibility Behavior Before UPL Turn Onto 37th Ave NE
02:07 - Confirmed Improvement w/ 10.69.x - Ego Car Incorrectly Attempts To Use Turn-Only Lane At 37th Ave NE & Central Ave NE
02:44 - Smooth Deceleration When Approaching 4-way Stop At 37th Ave NE & Madison Pl NE
03:07 - Confirmed Regression w/ 10.69.x - Excessive Hesitation At 4-way Stop At 37th Ave NE & 5th Street NE
03:22 - Issue - Phantom VRUs On 5th Street NE
03:49 - Possible Improvement - FSD Does Better Job Staying To The Right On Wide Unmarked Road
04:10 - Possible Improvement - Confident Behavior w/ Oncoming Bicyclists
04:41 - Possible Improvement - Less Hesitation w/ 3-way Stop At 5th Street NE & St. Anthony Pkwy
05:33 - Persistent Issue - FSD Signals As If It Will Attempt To Enter Oncoming Lane On St Anthony Pkwy
06:16 - Planner Continues To Do Solid Job w/ Placement Of Ego Car On St Anthony Pkwy
06:31 - Possible Improvement - FSD No Longer Heading For Specific Curb On St Anthony Pkwy
07:03 - Turkeys & Deer In Minneapolis!
07:14 - Persistent Issue - FSD Needs To Do A Better Job Aligning Ego Car To Center Line Before Making Left Turns
07:25 - Confirmed Improvement w/ 10.69.2 - Best Posture Yet Of Ego Car When Making UPL Turn Onto 42nd Ave N
08:43 - Issue - Planner Gets Confused When Making UPL Turn Onto Lyndale Ave N
09:05 - Disengagement - Planner Chooses Too Tight Of Line When Making Left Turn Onto Dowling Ave N
09:26 - Persistent Issue - Confusion w/ Lane Selection On Dowling Ave N
09:50 - Confirmed Improvement w/ 10.69.2 - Less Hesitation & Better Posture Before UPR Turn Onto Washington Ave N
11:16 - Confirmed Improvement w/ 10.69.x - FSD Properly Selects Left Lane After Lane Addition Point At Washington Ave N & 26th Ave N
12:01 - Possible Improvement - Additional Confidence When Approaching VRUs
12:35 - Confirmed Improvement w/ 10.69.2 - Improved Creep Behavior When Waiting To Complete UPL Turn Onto Plymouth Ave N
13:42 - Possible Improvement - FSD Properly Detecting Crossing Cyclists From A Distance
13:55 - Issue - FSD Abruptly Braking For Cyclist Waiting To Enter Crosswalk
14:39 - FSD Has Mastered The UPL Left Turn Onto University Ave NE
15:05 - Persistent Issue - FSD Does Not Automatically Treat Out Of Order Traffic Lights As 4-way Stop
15:35 - Persistent Mapping Issue - Car Incorrectly Attempts To Use Right Lane (Time-restricted Parking)
16:25 - New Issue - FSD Not Moving To Right Lane Before Right Turn Onto Lowry Ave NE
16:45 - Disengagement - Planner Fails To Get Into Right Turn Lane & Gets Confused When Trying To Make Right Turn
17:35 - Confirmed Regression w/ 10.69.x - Confusion w/ Lane Selection After Lane Increase Around Lowry Ave NE & Washington St NE
17:51 - Disengagement - FSD Tries To Make A Last Minute Lane Change Right Before Red Light
18:22 - Persistent Issue - FSD Still Decelerates Too Much When Approaching Turning Vehicles
18:48 - Confirmed Improvement w/ 10.69.2 - Improved Creep Behavior When Waiting To Complete UPL Turn Onto Stinson Pkwy
19:03 - Persistent Issue - Excessive Throttle Input After Making UPL Turn Onto Stinson Pkwy
19:40 - Persistent Issue - FSD Incorrectly Aligns Ego Car To Middle Of Wide Unmarked Lane
20:05 - Possible Improvement - Additional Confidence When Approaching VRUs
20:25 - Room For Improvement - Less Hesitation At Empty 4-way Stop At St Anthony Pkwy & 30th Ave NE
21:09 - FSD Confidently Handles UPR Turn Onto Busy Johnson St NE
21:29 - Disengagement / Persistent Issue - Ego Car Unnecessarily Uses Dead Space On Right Before Initiating UPL Turn Onto 36th Ave NE
22:21 - Confirmed Improvement w/ 10.69.2 - Less Hesitation At 2-way Stop At 36th Ave NE & Pierce St NE
22:33 - Closing Thoughts
Video #68 - Tesla - FSD Beta 10.69.2.2 - First Impressions Around Arcadia, CA
This video contains footage recorded on the morning of September 19th, 2022 of FSD Beta 10.69.2.2 driving me around Arcadia, CA. On this drive I recognized some increased confidence with chuck-style unprotected left turns (w/ medians) as well as better detection of flashing yellow turn lights. This build seems to get closer to the confidence that was originally experienced by OG testers with 10.69.0. Keep up the great work Autopilot team!
00:00 - Intro
00:51 - Smooth Unprotected Right Turn Onto E Huntington Drive
01:03 - Comments About Current Car Setup (Because Race Car
)
01:36 - Persistent Issue - FSD Needs To Slow Sooner When Approaching Slower / Stopped Traffic
02:04 - Issue - FSD Attempts To Make Lane Change w/o Signaling
02:34 - Smooth Left Turn Onto Santa Anita Ave
03:15 - FSD Doing A Great Job Aligning Itself To Inside Lane Line & Avoiding Dead Space On Right
03:53 - Issue - Lane Selection Confusion Before Left Turn Onto Duarte Rd
04:36 - FSD Executes Smooth Left Turn Onto Duarte Rd
04:55 - FSD Does A Great Job Confidently Navigating Around Parked Truck
05:10 - Possible Improvement - FSD Confidently Detects Flashing Yellow Turn Light & Executes Confident UPL Turn Onto Second Ave
05:57 - UPL Turn Onto Santa Anita Ave (Attempt #1 - Pass)
07:28 - UPL Turn Onto Santa Anita Ave (Attempt #2 - Pass)
08:37 - Persistent Issue - FSD Gets Extremely Nervous w/ Oncoming Traffic When Making UPL Turn From Shared Center Turn Lanes
09:40 - UPL Turn Onto Santa Anita Ave (Attempt #3 - Pass)
10:27 - Issue - More Lane Selection Confusion Before Left Turn Onto Duarte Rd
10:43 - FSD Executes Another Smooth Left Turn Onto Duarte Rd
11:11 - Persistent Issue - Intermittent Rough Braking When Approaching Intersection w/ Red Light
11:51 - Possible Improvement - FSD Again Confidently Detects Flashing Yellow Turn Light & Executes Confident UPL Turn Onto Second Ave
12:51 - Human-like Handling Of 2-way Stop At Second Ave & California St
13:12 - Issue - Lane Selection Confusion on Second Ave
13:50 - Closing Thoughts
@power.saver - I think you'll like this one
This video contains footage recorded on the morning of September 19th, 2022 of FSD Beta 10.69.2.2 driving me around Arcadia, CA. On this drive I recognized some increased confidence with chuck-style unprotected left turns (w/ medians) as well as better detection of flashing yellow turn lights. This build seems to get closer to the confidence that was originally experienced by OG testers with 10.69.0. Keep up the great work Autopilot team!
00:00 - Intro
00:51 - Smooth Unprotected Right Turn Onto E Huntington Drive
01:03 - Comments About Current Car Setup (Because Race Car
)01:36 - Persistent Issue - FSD Needs To Slow Sooner When Approaching Slower / Stopped Traffic
02:04 - Issue - FSD Attempts To Make Lane Change w/o Signaling
02:34 - Smooth Left Turn Onto Santa Anita Ave
03:15 - FSD Doing A Great Job Aligning Itself To Inside Lane Line & Avoiding Dead Space On Right
03:53 - Issue - Lane Selection Confusion Before Left Turn Onto Duarte Rd
04:36 - FSD Executes Smooth Left Turn Onto Duarte Rd
04:55 - FSD Does A Great Job Confidently Navigating Around Parked Truck
05:10 - Possible Improvement - FSD Confidently Detects Flashing Yellow Turn Light & Executes Confident UPL Turn Onto Second Ave
05:57 - UPL Turn Onto Santa Anita Ave (Attempt #1 - Pass)
07:28 - UPL Turn Onto Santa Anita Ave (Attempt #2 - Pass)
08:37 - Persistent Issue - FSD Gets Extremely Nervous w/ Oncoming Traffic When Making UPL Turn From Shared Center Turn Lanes
09:40 - UPL Turn Onto Santa Anita Ave (Attempt #3 - Pass)
10:27 - Issue - More Lane Selection Confusion Before Left Turn Onto Duarte Rd
10:43 - FSD Executes Another Smooth Left Turn Onto Duarte Rd
11:11 - Persistent Issue - Intermittent Rough Braking When Approaching Intersection w/ Red Light
11:51 - Possible Improvement - FSD Again Confidently Detects Flashing Yellow Turn Light & Executes Confident UPL Turn Onto Second Ave
12:51 - Human-like Handling Of 2-way Stop At Second Ave & California St
13:12 - Issue - Lane Selection Confusion on Second Ave
13:50 - Closing Thoughts
@power.saver - I think you'll like this one
Welcome to Arcadia!Video #68 - Tesla - FSD Beta 10.69.2.2 - First Impressions Around Arcadia, CA
This video contains footage recorded on the morning of September 19th, 2022 of FSD Beta 10.69.2.2 driving me around Arcadia, CA. On this drive I recognized some increased confidence with chuck-style unprotected left turns (w/ medians) as well as better detection of flashing yellow turn lights. This build seems to get closer to the confidence that was originally experienced by OG testers with 10.69.0. Keep up the great work Autopilot team!
00:00 - Intro
00:51 - Smooth Unprotected Right Turn Onto E Huntington Drive
01:03 - Comments About Current Car Setup (Because Race Car
01:36 - Persistent Issue - FSD Needs To Slow Sooner When Approaching Slower / Stopped Traffic
02:04 - Issue - FSD Attempts To Make Lane Change w/o Signaling
02:34 - Smooth Left Turn Onto Santa Anita Ave
03:15 - FSD Doing A Great Job Aligning Itself To Inside Lane Line & Avoiding Dead Space On Right
03:53 - Issue - Lane Selection Confusion Before Left Turn Onto Duarte Rd
04:36 - FSD Executes Smooth Left Turn Onto Duarte Rd
04:55 - FSD Does A Great Job Confidently Navigating Around Parked Truck
05:10 - Possible Improvement - FSD Confidently Detects Flashing Yellow Turn Light & Executes Confident UPL Turn Onto Second Ave
05:57 - UPL Turn Onto Santa Anita Ave (Attempt #1 - Pass)
07:28 - UPL Turn Onto Santa Anita Ave (Attempt #2 - Pass)
08:37 - Persistent Issue - FSD Gets Extremely Nervous w/ Oncoming Traffic When Making UPL Turn From Shared Center Turn Lanes
09:40 - UPL Turn Onto Santa Anita Ave (Attempt #3 - Pass)
10:27 - Issue - More Lane Selection Confusion Before Left Turn Onto Duarte Rd
10:43 - FSD Executes Another Smooth Left Turn Onto Duarte Rd
11:11 - Persistent Issue - Intermittent Rough Braking When Approaching Intersection w/ Red Light
11:51 - Possible Improvement - FSD Again Confidently Detects Flashing Yellow Turn Light & Executes Confident UPL Turn Onto Second Ave
12:51 - Human-like Handling Of 2-way Stop At Second Ave & California St
13:12 - Issue - Lane Selection Confusion on Second Ave
13:50 - Closing Thoughts
@power.saver - I think you'll like this one
It is a 4-way stop at Second & California (13:02).
If you're up for a challenge... try going W/B on Huntington from Centennial Way with a destination on Campus Dr east of Holly Ave. If FSD can pull that off, make a U-turn and go W/B on Campus Dr with a destination on Huntington Dr west of Holly Ave. Be ready to take over on this one. The intersection of Huntington Dr, Holly Ave and Campus Dr is probably the most complex in Arcadia.
Video #69 - Tesla - FSD Beta 10.69.3 - St Anthony Pkwy UPL Turn Pt 1
This video contains footage recorded on the morning of November 2nd, 2022 of FSD Beta 10.69.3 attempting 3 UPL turns onto St Anthony Pkwy from Johnson St NE (NE Minneapolis). There was not a lot of traffic during this time of day so I'll be posting another video later tonight once rush hour hits.
00:00 - Intro
00:20 - UPL Turn Onto St Anthony Pkwy (Attempt #1 - Fail)
02:08 - UPL Turn Onto St Anthony Pkwy (Attempt #2 - Fail)
03:03 - UPL Turn Onto St Anthony Pkwy (Attempt #3 - Pass)
03:37 - Closing Thoughts
This video contains footage recorded on the morning of November 2nd, 2022 of FSD Beta 10.69.3 attempting 3 UPL turns onto St Anthony Pkwy from Johnson St NE (NE Minneapolis). There was not a lot of traffic during this time of day so I'll be posting another video later tonight once rush hour hits.
00:00 - Intro
00:20 - UPL Turn Onto St Anthony Pkwy (Attempt #1 - Fail)
02:08 - UPL Turn Onto St Anthony Pkwy (Attempt #2 - Fail)
03:03 - UPL Turn Onto St Anthony Pkwy (Attempt #3 - Pass)
03:37 - Closing Thoughts
That intersection is vicious for ADAS systems because there is a stop line well ahead of the intersection with a sign saying to stop here when the light is red. The car is likely picking up the crosswalk ahead as the stop line, as it's not reading signs yet. This is one of those where I'd test it a few times and report failures, and then just disengage when I approach this type of intersection and handle it manually until the next update to see if things improve.
Yea it's a tough one no doubt and exactly why I try and test it a few times with each build to see if there have been any improvements (and always report my feedback back to the team). The latency w/ decision making seems better but still plenty of room for improvement.
Video #70 - Tesla - FSD Beta 10.69.3 - Work Test Loop
00:00 - Intro
00:36 - Disengagement / Persistent Issue - FSD Struggles To Enter Fillmore St NE From Driveway
01:07 - Persistent Issue w/ 10.69.x - Excessive Hesitation At 2-way Stop At Fillmore St NE & 36th Ave NE
01:35 - Confident UPL Turn Onto 37th Ave NE
02:18 - FSD Continues To Pick The Correct Lane When Crossing 37th Ave NE & Central Ave NE
02:52 - Persistent Issue - Excessive Hesitation At 4-way Stop At 37th Ave NE & 5th Street NE
03:44 - Possible Improvement - FSD Does Better Job Staying To The Right On Wide Unmarked Road
04:29 - Possible Improvement - Less Hesitation w/ 3-way Stop At 5th Street NE & St. Anthony Pkwy
04:54 - Persistent Mapping Issue - FSD Signals As If It Will Attempt To Enter Oncoming Lane On St Anthony Pkwy
05:36 - Planner Continues To Do A Great Job w/ Placement Of Ego Car On St Anthony Pkwy
06:17 - New Issue - FSD Gets Confused And Activates Turn Signal For No Reason
06:37 - Persistent Issue - FSD Needs To Do A Better Job Aligning Ego Car To Center Line Before Making Left Turns
06:48 - Persistent Issue - FSD Hesitates Too Much Before UPL Turn Onto 42nd Ave N Along w/ Incorrect Lane Selection After Turn
07:37 - New Issue - FSD Initiates Left Turn Too Early & Crosses Centerline
08:04 - Possible Improvement - Good Line Selection w/ Left Turn Onto Dowling Ave N
08:19 - Possible Improvement - More Confident Lane Selection w/ Shared Vehicle Turn Lane
09:16 - Persistent Issue - Rate Of Deceleration Too Aggressive When Exiting Freeway
09:41 - FSD Doing An Excellent Job Yielding To Approaching Traffic Before Making UPR Turn Onto Edina Industrial Blvd
10:09 - Human-like Deceleration Before Final UPL Turn
10:20 - Closing Thoughts
00:00 - Intro
00:36 - Disengagement / Persistent Issue - FSD Struggles To Enter Fillmore St NE From Driveway
01:07 - Persistent Issue w/ 10.69.x - Excessive Hesitation At 2-way Stop At Fillmore St NE & 36th Ave NE
01:35 - Confident UPL Turn Onto 37th Ave NE
02:18 - FSD Continues To Pick The Correct Lane When Crossing 37th Ave NE & Central Ave NE
02:52 - Persistent Issue - Excessive Hesitation At 4-way Stop At 37th Ave NE & 5th Street NE
03:44 - Possible Improvement - FSD Does Better Job Staying To The Right On Wide Unmarked Road
04:29 - Possible Improvement - Less Hesitation w/ 3-way Stop At 5th Street NE & St. Anthony Pkwy
04:54 - Persistent Mapping Issue - FSD Signals As If It Will Attempt To Enter Oncoming Lane On St Anthony Pkwy
05:36 - Planner Continues To Do A Great Job w/ Placement Of Ego Car On St Anthony Pkwy
06:17 - New Issue - FSD Gets Confused And Activates Turn Signal For No Reason
06:37 - Persistent Issue - FSD Needs To Do A Better Job Aligning Ego Car To Center Line Before Making Left Turns
06:48 - Persistent Issue - FSD Hesitates Too Much Before UPL Turn Onto 42nd Ave N Along w/ Incorrect Lane Selection After Turn
07:37 - New Issue - FSD Initiates Left Turn Too Early & Crosses Centerline
08:04 - Possible Improvement - Good Line Selection w/ Left Turn Onto Dowling Ave N
08:19 - Possible Improvement - More Confident Lane Selection w/ Shared Vehicle Turn Lane
09:16 - Persistent Issue - Rate Of Deceleration Too Aggressive When Exiting Freeway
09:41 - FSD Doing An Excellent Job Yielding To Approaching Traffic Before Making UPR Turn Onto Edina Industrial Blvd
10:09 - Human-like Deceleration Before Final UPL Turn
10:20 - Closing Thoughts
Video #71 - Tesla - FSD Beta 10.69.3 - St Anthony Pkwy UPL Turn Pt 2
This video contains footage recorded on the afternoon of November 2nd, 2022 of FSD Beta 10.69.3 attempting 4 UPL turns onto St Anthony Pkwy from Johnson St NE (NE Minneapolis). Compared to previous 10.69.x builds, there are some noticeable changes with 10.69.3 related to this specific UPL turn test that deserve to be mentioned:
Improvements:
- Pre-turn positioning is much better as FSD doesn't try to move to the right as much as it did in previous builds
- Latency with respect to decision making appears to be better
Issues / Regressions:
- FSD attempts to accelerate way too much right before initiating the left turn
- Planner now likes to aggressively move towards the outside curb as it finishes the turn
- Ego car continues to be incorrectly positioned at a 45 degree angle towards oncoming traffic
00:00 - Intro
00:57 - UPL Turn Onto St Anthony Pkwy (Attempt #1 - Pass)
01:30 - UPL Turn Onto St Anthony Pkwy (Attempt #2 - Fail)
03:15 - UPL Turn Onto St Anthony Pkwy (Attempt #3 - Fail)
04:24 - UPL Turn Onto St Anthony Pkwy (Attempt #4 - Fail)
05:18 - Closing Thoughts
This video contains footage recorded on the afternoon of November 2nd, 2022 of FSD Beta 10.69.3 attempting 4 UPL turns onto St Anthony Pkwy from Johnson St NE (NE Minneapolis). Compared to previous 10.69.x builds, there are some noticeable changes with 10.69.3 related to this specific UPL turn test that deserve to be mentioned:
Improvements:
- Pre-turn positioning is much better as FSD doesn't try to move to the right as much as it did in previous builds
- Latency with respect to decision making appears to be better
Issues / Regressions:
- FSD attempts to accelerate way too much right before initiating the left turn
- Planner now likes to aggressively move towards the outside curb as it finishes the turn
- Ego car continues to be incorrectly positioned at a 45 degree angle towards oncoming traffic
00:00 - Intro
00:57 - UPL Turn Onto St Anthony Pkwy (Attempt #1 - Pass)
01:30 - UPL Turn Onto St Anthony Pkwy (Attempt #2 - Fail)
03:15 - UPL Turn Onto St Anthony Pkwy (Attempt #3 - Fail)
04:24 - UPL Turn Onto St Anthony Pkwy (Attempt #4 - Fail)
05:18 - Closing Thoughts
Video #72 - Tesla - FSD Beta 10.69.3 - Roundabout Torture Test
This video contains footage recorded on the evening of November 3rd, 2022 where I put FSD Beta 10.69.3 through a roundabout torture test that we previously tried w/ 10.69.1. The pair of roundabouts are located adjacent to a busy Walmart in Roseville, MN and I decided to test during rush hour to ensure other vehicle & VRU traffic would be present. During the torture test, I traverse the pair of roundabouts a total of 6 times, 3 times from each direction. I considered each test a fail if I had to disengage or intervene with any sort of driver input. After performing all 6 attempts, I recorded 2 passes and 4 failures.
Improvements:
- Latency with respect to decision making appears to be better
- Last second lane changes are smoother
Issues / Regressions:
- Planner now commonly selects a path that put us on a collision course with the inside curb within the roundabout
- Lane selection issues continue to persist and it makes it difficult for FSD to confidently traverse these roundabouts
00:00 - Intro
00:34 - Roundabout Test (Attempt #1 - Fail)
01:39 - Roundabout Test (Attempt #2 - Pass)
02:46 - Roundabout Test (Attempt #3 - Fail)
03:47 - Roundabout Test (Attempt #4 - Pass)
04:42 - Roundabout Test (Attempt #5 - Fail)
05:41 - Roundabout Test (Attempt #6 - Fail)
06:16 - Closing Thoughts
This video contains footage recorded on the evening of November 3rd, 2022 where I put FSD Beta 10.69.3 through a roundabout torture test that we previously tried w/ 10.69.1. The pair of roundabouts are located adjacent to a busy Walmart in Roseville, MN and I decided to test during rush hour to ensure other vehicle & VRU traffic would be present. During the torture test, I traverse the pair of roundabouts a total of 6 times, 3 times from each direction. I considered each test a fail if I had to disengage or intervene with any sort of driver input. After performing all 6 attempts, I recorded 2 passes and 4 failures.
Improvements:
- Latency with respect to decision making appears to be better
- Last second lane changes are smoother
Issues / Regressions:
- Planner now commonly selects a path that put us on a collision course with the inside curb within the roundabout
- Lane selection issues continue to persist and it makes it difficult for FSD to confidently traverse these roundabouts
00:00 - Intro
00:34 - Roundabout Test (Attempt #1 - Fail)
01:39 - Roundabout Test (Attempt #2 - Pass)
02:46 - Roundabout Test (Attempt #3 - Fail)
03:47 - Roundabout Test (Attempt #4 - Pass)
04:42 - Roundabout Test (Attempt #5 - Fail)
05:41 - Roundabout Test (Attempt #6 - Fail)
06:16 - Closing Thoughts
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Video #73 - Tesla - FSD Beta 10.69.3 - NE Minneapolis Test Loop (Shortened)
This video contains footage recorded on the evening of November 3rd, 2022 of FSD Beta 10.69.3 driving me around the shortened version of my NE Minneapolis Test Loop. During this drive I recognize some improvements related to lane selection as well as some regressions related to hesitation at 2-way & 4-way stops.
00:00 - Intro
00:56 - Persistent Issue - Unnecessary Slowing When Making UPL Turn Onto Plymouth Ave N
02:50 - Issue - Unnecessary Slowing For Stationary VRUs
03:03 - FSD Doing A Great Job Handling Moving VRUs
03:37 - FSD Confidently Predicting Path Of Approaching School Bus And Adjusting Ego Car Path Accordingly
04:06 - Issue - Phantom Braking For No Apparent Reason
04:25 - FSD Patiently Waits For Crossing Pedestrians Before Making Smooth UPL Turn Onto University Ave NE
04:51 - Persistent Mapping Issue - Car Incorrectly Attempts To Use Right Lane (Time-restricted Parking)
05:57 - Confirmed Improvement - Smoother Creep Behavior Thanks To Reduction In Decision Making Latency
06:31 - Confirmed Improvement - Planner Properly Moves Ego Car To Right Lane Before Right Turn Onto Lowry Ave NE
06:57 - Confirmed Improvement - FSD Properly Enters The Right Lane After Right Turn Onto Lowry Ave NE
07:35 - Confirmed Improvement - FSD Properly Stays In Left Lane After Lane Increase Around Lowry Ave NE & Washington St NE
08:16 - Planner Doing An Excellent Job Navigating Tight Lane Due To Construction Cones
09:06 - Issue - Unnecessary Hesitation & Turn Signal Activation When Crossing Lowry Ave NE & Central Ave NE
09:57 - Disengagement / New Issue w/ 10.69.3 - FSD Carries Way Too Much Speed Only Then Suddenly Brakes Before Initiating UPL Turn Onto Stinson Pkwy
11:17 - FSD Confidently Handles 4-way Stop w/ VRUs At Stinson Pkwy & St Anthony Pkwy
11:41 - New Issue w/ 10.69.3 - FSD Blows Stop Sign At 4-way Stop At St Anthony Pkwy & 29th Ave NE
12:22 - Regression - Excessive Hesitation At Empty 4-way Stop At St Anthony Pkwy & 30th Ave NE
12:57 - FSD Confidently Handles Sharp Right Turn Onto Johnson St NE With Changing Light
13:23 - Disengagement / Persistent Issue - Ego Car Unnecessarily Uses Dead Space On Right Before Initiating UPL Turn Onto 36th Ave NE
13:47 - Persistent Issue - Comment About Auto Bright Issues & Incorrect Speed Limit Around Residential Streets In Minneapolis
14:07 - Regression - Excessive Hesitation At 2-way Stop At 36th Ave NE & Pierce St NE
14:30 - Issue - Unnecessary Slowing For Approaching Traffic When Making UPL Turn Onto Fillmore St NE
15:04 - Closing Thoughts
This video contains footage recorded on the evening of November 3rd, 2022 of FSD Beta 10.69.3 driving me around the shortened version of my NE Minneapolis Test Loop. During this drive I recognize some improvements related to lane selection as well as some regressions related to hesitation at 2-way & 4-way stops.
00:00 - Intro
00:56 - Persistent Issue - Unnecessary Slowing When Making UPL Turn Onto Plymouth Ave N
02:50 - Issue - Unnecessary Slowing For Stationary VRUs
03:03 - FSD Doing A Great Job Handling Moving VRUs
03:37 - FSD Confidently Predicting Path Of Approaching School Bus And Adjusting Ego Car Path Accordingly
04:06 - Issue - Phantom Braking For No Apparent Reason
04:25 - FSD Patiently Waits For Crossing Pedestrians Before Making Smooth UPL Turn Onto University Ave NE
04:51 - Persistent Mapping Issue - Car Incorrectly Attempts To Use Right Lane (Time-restricted Parking)
05:57 - Confirmed Improvement - Smoother Creep Behavior Thanks To Reduction In Decision Making Latency
06:31 - Confirmed Improvement - Planner Properly Moves Ego Car To Right Lane Before Right Turn Onto Lowry Ave NE
06:57 - Confirmed Improvement - FSD Properly Enters The Right Lane After Right Turn Onto Lowry Ave NE
07:35 - Confirmed Improvement - FSD Properly Stays In Left Lane After Lane Increase Around Lowry Ave NE & Washington St NE
08:16 - Planner Doing An Excellent Job Navigating Tight Lane Due To Construction Cones
09:06 - Issue - Unnecessary Hesitation & Turn Signal Activation When Crossing Lowry Ave NE & Central Ave NE
09:57 - Disengagement / New Issue w/ 10.69.3 - FSD Carries Way Too Much Speed Only Then Suddenly Brakes Before Initiating UPL Turn Onto Stinson Pkwy
11:17 - FSD Confidently Handles 4-way Stop w/ VRUs At Stinson Pkwy & St Anthony Pkwy
11:41 - New Issue w/ 10.69.3 - FSD Blows Stop Sign At 4-way Stop At St Anthony Pkwy & 29th Ave NE
12:22 - Regression - Excessive Hesitation At Empty 4-way Stop At St Anthony Pkwy & 30th Ave NE
12:57 - FSD Confidently Handles Sharp Right Turn Onto Johnson St NE With Changing Light
13:23 - Disengagement / Persistent Issue - Ego Car Unnecessarily Uses Dead Space On Right Before Initiating UPL Turn Onto 36th Ave NE
13:47 - Persistent Issue - Comment About Auto Bright Issues & Incorrect Speed Limit Around Residential Streets In Minneapolis
14:07 - Regression - Excessive Hesitation At 2-way Stop At 36th Ave NE & Pierce St NE
14:30 - Issue - Unnecessary Slowing For Approaching Traffic When Making UPL Turn Onto Fillmore St NE
15:04 - Closing Thoughts
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Video #74 - Tesla - FSD Beta 10.69.3 - Columbia Heights (Shortened)
This video contains footage recorded on the afternoon of November 4th, 2022 of FSD Beta 10.69.3 driving me from my wife's work (Columbia Heights) to my house (NE Minneapolis). During this short drive, FSD selected the correct lane when turning right onto Central Ave NE for the first time since FSD Beta 10.10.2. On top of this promising result, FSD also confidently navigates a construction zone without any intervention from me. Based on my recent drives with FSD Beta 10.69.3, I believe there is a lot of promise with the changes Tesla made behind the scenes and I am really excited to see how they evolve with 10.69.3.1 & 10.69.3.2.
00:00 - Intro
00:49 - Central Ave NE Lane Selection Test (Attempt #1 - Pass)
01:42 - Central Ave NE Lane Selection Test (Attempt #2 - Fail)
02:21 - Central Ave NE Lane Selection Test (Attempt #3 - Fail)
04:12 - FSD Confidently Changes Lanes to Avoid Closed Lane Up Ahead (Construction)
04:46 - Issue - FSD Enters Turn Lane Too Slowly
05:15 - Reduced Decision Making Latency in 10.69.3 Results In Human-like UPL Turn Onto 37th Ave NE
06:16 - Smooth Deceleration Before Right Turn Onto Fillmore St NE
06:30 - Persistent Issue - Comment About Incorrect Speed Limit Around Residential Streets In Minneapolis
06:53 - Regression - Excessive Hesitation At 2-way Stop At Fillmore St NE & 36th Ave NE
07:24 - Closing Thoughts
This video contains footage recorded on the afternoon of November 4th, 2022 of FSD Beta 10.69.3 driving me from my wife's work (Columbia Heights) to my house (NE Minneapolis). During this short drive, FSD selected the correct lane when turning right onto Central Ave NE for the first time since FSD Beta 10.10.2. On top of this promising result, FSD also confidently navigates a construction zone without any intervention from me. Based on my recent drives with FSD Beta 10.69.3, I believe there is a lot of promise with the changes Tesla made behind the scenes and I am really excited to see how they evolve with 10.69.3.1 & 10.69.3.2.
00:00 - Intro
00:49 - Central Ave NE Lane Selection Test (Attempt #1 - Pass)
01:42 - Central Ave NE Lane Selection Test (Attempt #2 - Fail)
02:21 - Central Ave NE Lane Selection Test (Attempt #3 - Fail)
04:12 - FSD Confidently Changes Lanes to Avoid Closed Lane Up Ahead (Construction)
04:46 - Issue - FSD Enters Turn Lane Too Slowly
05:15 - Reduced Decision Making Latency in 10.69.3 Results In Human-like UPL Turn Onto 37th Ave NE
06:16 - Smooth Deceleration Before Right Turn Onto Fillmore St NE
06:30 - Persistent Issue - Comment About Incorrect Speed Limit Around Residential Streets In Minneapolis
06:53 - Regression - Excessive Hesitation At 2-way Stop At Fillmore St NE & 36th Ave NE
07:24 - Closing Thoughts
Video #75 - Tesla - FSD Beta 10.63.3 - North Metro Test Loop
This video contains footage recorded on November 6th, 2022 of FSD Beta 10.69.3 driving me from my home (NE Minneapolis) to my parents’ house (Coon Rapids, MN). Even though this drive has a fairly easy route, we experienced several issues along the way which resulted in several disengagements.
00:00 - Intro
00:31 - Persistent Issue - Incorrect Speed Limit For Residential Streets In Minneapolis
00:50 - Regression - Excessive Hesitation At 2-way Stop At Fillmore St NE & 36th Ave NE
01:32 - FSD Aces UPL Turn Onto A Very Busy 37th Ave NE
02:18 - Comment About Latency Improvement w/ FSD Beta 10.69.3
02:33 - Disengagement / Possible Regression - Planner Selects Wrong Lane When Waiting To Cross 37th Ave NE & Central Ave NE
03:24 - Disengagement / Possible Regression - Planner Again Selects Wrong Lane At 37th Ave NE & Central Ave NE
05:03 - Issue - Interesting FSD Creep Visuals w/ Minor Occlusions At 37th Ave NE & 5th St NE
05:25 - Disengagement / Regression - Planner Fails To Use Shared Bike / Vehicle Turn Lane
07:32 - Smooth Exit Off Of Highway 10 And Transition From NoAP to FSD
07:57 - Go Pro Flaked Out (UGH)
08:34 - Possible Regression - Tight Line Behavior Returns When Making Left Turn Onto Main St
09:20 - Issue - Planner Selects The Wrong Turn Lane When Preparing To Turn Left On Main St & Riverdale Blvd
09:53 - Disengagement - FSD Unable To Recover From Incorrect Lane Selection At Main St & Riverdale Blvd
10:54 - FSD Doing A Great Job Turning Right Onto Riverdale Blvd & Getting Over To Make Upcoming Left Turn At Riverdale Blvd & 124th Ave NW
11:30 - FSD Handles 4-way Stop At Riverdale Blvd & 124th Ave NW Like A Human
11:52 - More Comments About FSD Beta 10.69.3
12:59 - Smooth Deceleration Before Right Turn Onto Jonquil St NW
13:16 - Closing Thoughts
This video contains footage recorded on November 6th, 2022 of FSD Beta 10.69.3 driving me from my home (NE Minneapolis) to my parents’ house (Coon Rapids, MN). Even though this drive has a fairly easy route, we experienced several issues along the way which resulted in several disengagements.
00:00 - Intro
00:31 - Persistent Issue - Incorrect Speed Limit For Residential Streets In Minneapolis
00:50 - Regression - Excessive Hesitation At 2-way Stop At Fillmore St NE & 36th Ave NE
01:32 - FSD Aces UPL Turn Onto A Very Busy 37th Ave NE
02:18 - Comment About Latency Improvement w/ FSD Beta 10.69.3
02:33 - Disengagement / Possible Regression - Planner Selects Wrong Lane When Waiting To Cross 37th Ave NE & Central Ave NE
03:24 - Disengagement / Possible Regression - Planner Again Selects Wrong Lane At 37th Ave NE & Central Ave NE
05:03 - Issue - Interesting FSD Creep Visuals w/ Minor Occlusions At 37th Ave NE & 5th St NE
05:25 - Disengagement / Regression - Planner Fails To Use Shared Bike / Vehicle Turn Lane
07:32 - Smooth Exit Off Of Highway 10 And Transition From NoAP to FSD
07:57 - Go Pro Flaked Out (UGH)
08:34 - Possible Regression - Tight Line Behavior Returns When Making Left Turn Onto Main St
09:20 - Issue - Planner Selects The Wrong Turn Lane When Preparing To Turn Left On Main St & Riverdale Blvd
09:53 - Disengagement - FSD Unable To Recover From Incorrect Lane Selection At Main St & Riverdale Blvd
10:54 - FSD Doing A Great Job Turning Right Onto Riverdale Blvd & Getting Over To Make Upcoming Left Turn At Riverdale Blvd & 124th Ave NW
11:30 - FSD Handles 4-way Stop At Riverdale Blvd & 124th Ave NW Like A Human
11:52 - More Comments About FSD Beta 10.69.3
12:59 - Smooth Deceleration Before Right Turn Onto Jonquil St NW
13:16 - Closing Thoughts
Video #76 - Tesla - FSD Beta 10.69.3 - Railroad Crossing
This video contains footage recorded on the evening of November 6th, 2022 of FSD Beta 10.69.3 reacting and slowing for a passing train at a railroad crossing near my house.
This video contains footage recorded on the evening of November 6th, 2022 of FSD Beta 10.69.3 reacting and slowing for a passing train at a railroad crossing near my house.
And they still don't have a proper icon for the RR warning lights!
Video #77 - Tesla - FSD Beta 10.69.25.2 - Work Test Loop
This video contains footage recorded on the morning of January 18th, 2023 of FSD Beta 10.69.25.2 driving me from my home (NE Minneapolis) to my company’s office (Edina, MN). Since this was my first drive with 10.69.25.2 I was eager to see how hesitant FSD was at common intersections (2-way, 3-way, and 4-way stops), especially when empty. I am happy to report that this build is noticeably more confident than 10.69.25.1 ever was. While my experience has been mostly positive I continue to notice a major regression with handling of the intersection of 37th Ave NE & Central Ave NE. This has been a regression I first noticed with 10.69.25 and something that was completely fixed as of 10.69.3. Since V11 is right around the corner, I made sure to not cut out the highway portions of this route so we can compare once that build is ready for the public.
00:00 - Intro
01:22 - Disengagement / Persistent Issue - FSD Struggles To Enter Fillmore St NE From Driveway
01:58 - Possible Improvement - Less Hesitation At 2-way Stop At Fillmore St NE & 36th Ave NE
02:30 - Disengagement - FSD Positions Ego Car Too Far To Right & Tries To Completely Stop
02:46 - FSD Continues To Do A Beautiful Job w/ UPL Turn Onto 37th Ave NE
04:06 - Disengagement / Confirmed Regression w/ 10.69.25.x - FSD Gets Confused w/ Lane Selection When Crossing 37th Ave NE & Central Ave NE
05:15 - Issue - FSD Positions Ego Car Too Much To The Left When Passing Barely Moving Semi
07:18 - Possible Improvement - Less Hesitation At 4-way Stop At 37th Ave NE & 5th Street NE
07:29 - FSD Does Solid Job Moving To Right & Yielding For Oncoming School Bus
07:59 - FSD Does Good Job Staying To The Right On Wide Unmarked Road
08:44 - Possible Improvement - Less Hesitation w/ 3-way Stop At 5th Street NE & St. Anthony Pkwy
09:06 - Persistent Mapping Issue - FSD Signals As If It Will Attempt To Enter Oncoming Lane On St Anthony Pkwy
10:05 - Planner Continues To Do An Excellent Job w/ Placement Of Ego Car On St Anthony Pkwy
11:06 - Issue - Several Throttle Inputs As Car Was Too Hesitant
11:18 - Possible Improvement - Less Hesitation Before UPL Turn Onto 42nd Ave N
12:14 - Persistent Issue w/ 10.69.x - FSD Initiates Left Turn Too Early & Crosses Centerline
13:36 - Possible Improvement - Perfect Line Selection w/ Left Turn Onto Dowling Ave N
13:54 - Disengagement / Confirmed Regression w/ 10.69.25.x - Confusion w/ Shared Vehicle Turn Lane
14:57 - Persistent Map Issue - Nav on Autopilot Confused w/ Lane Selection Due To Stale Map Data
16:00 - Disengagement / Persistent Issue - Nav on Autopilot Unable To Enter Interchange From I-394W to MN-100 S
16:36 - Disengagement / New Map Issue - Nav on Autopilot Confused w/ Lane Selection Due To Stale Map Data
17:53 - Comments Regarding Nav on Autopilot Differences Between Non-FSD Beta & FSD Beta Builds
19:29 - Possible Improvement - Smoother Rate Of Deceleration When Exiting MN-100 S
20:20 - Issue - Choppy Start / Stop Throttle Inputs While Waiting To Make UPR Turn Onto Edina Industrial Blvd
20:37 - Persistent Issue - FSD Waits Too Long To Move Over To Left-most Lane On Edina Industrial Blvd
20:53 - Persistent Issue - Excessive Hesitation While Making UPL Turn Into Office Parking Lot
21:10 - Closing Thoughts
This video contains footage recorded on the morning of January 18th, 2023 of FSD Beta 10.69.25.2 driving me from my home (NE Minneapolis) to my company’s office (Edina, MN). Since this was my first drive with 10.69.25.2 I was eager to see how hesitant FSD was at common intersections (2-way, 3-way, and 4-way stops), especially when empty. I am happy to report that this build is noticeably more confident than 10.69.25.1 ever was. While my experience has been mostly positive I continue to notice a major regression with handling of the intersection of 37th Ave NE & Central Ave NE. This has been a regression I first noticed with 10.69.25 and something that was completely fixed as of 10.69.3. Since V11 is right around the corner, I made sure to not cut out the highway portions of this route so we can compare once that build is ready for the public.
00:00 - Intro
01:22 - Disengagement / Persistent Issue - FSD Struggles To Enter Fillmore St NE From Driveway
01:58 - Possible Improvement - Less Hesitation At 2-way Stop At Fillmore St NE & 36th Ave NE
02:30 - Disengagement - FSD Positions Ego Car Too Far To Right & Tries To Completely Stop
02:46 - FSD Continues To Do A Beautiful Job w/ UPL Turn Onto 37th Ave NE
04:06 - Disengagement / Confirmed Regression w/ 10.69.25.x - FSD Gets Confused w/ Lane Selection When Crossing 37th Ave NE & Central Ave NE
05:15 - Issue - FSD Positions Ego Car Too Much To The Left When Passing Barely Moving Semi
07:18 - Possible Improvement - Less Hesitation At 4-way Stop At 37th Ave NE & 5th Street NE
07:29 - FSD Does Solid Job Moving To Right & Yielding For Oncoming School Bus
07:59 - FSD Does Good Job Staying To The Right On Wide Unmarked Road
08:44 - Possible Improvement - Less Hesitation w/ 3-way Stop At 5th Street NE & St. Anthony Pkwy
09:06 - Persistent Mapping Issue - FSD Signals As If It Will Attempt To Enter Oncoming Lane On St Anthony Pkwy
10:05 - Planner Continues To Do An Excellent Job w/ Placement Of Ego Car On St Anthony Pkwy
11:06 - Issue - Several Throttle Inputs As Car Was Too Hesitant
11:18 - Possible Improvement - Less Hesitation Before UPL Turn Onto 42nd Ave N
12:14 - Persistent Issue w/ 10.69.x - FSD Initiates Left Turn Too Early & Crosses Centerline
13:36 - Possible Improvement - Perfect Line Selection w/ Left Turn Onto Dowling Ave N
13:54 - Disengagement / Confirmed Regression w/ 10.69.25.x - Confusion w/ Shared Vehicle Turn Lane
14:57 - Persistent Map Issue - Nav on Autopilot Confused w/ Lane Selection Due To Stale Map Data
16:00 - Disengagement / Persistent Issue - Nav on Autopilot Unable To Enter Interchange From I-394W to MN-100 S
16:36 - Disengagement / New Map Issue - Nav on Autopilot Confused w/ Lane Selection Due To Stale Map Data
17:53 - Comments Regarding Nav on Autopilot Differences Between Non-FSD Beta & FSD Beta Builds
19:29 - Possible Improvement - Smoother Rate Of Deceleration When Exiting MN-100 S
20:20 - Issue - Choppy Start / Stop Throttle Inputs While Waiting To Make UPR Turn Onto Edina Industrial Blvd
20:37 - Persistent Issue - FSD Waits Too Long To Move Over To Left-most Lane On Edina Industrial Blvd
20:53 - Persistent Issue - Excessive Hesitation While Making UPL Turn Into Office Parking Lot
21:10 - Closing Thoughts
Video #78 - Tesla - FSD Beta 10.69.25.2 - Driving In The Snow
This video contains footage recorded on the morning of January 19th, 2023 of FSD Beta 10.69.25.2 driving me from my home (NE Minneapolis) to my company’s office (Edina, MN) in the middle of a mild snow storm. It has been over a year since I last posted any videos (see below) of FSD Beta driving on snow covered roads so I figured it was time. When watching the two videos side by side you will quickly notice the improved confidence with path planning thanks in part to the occupancy networks properly mapping out usable driving space (most of the time). Keep up the great work Autopilot team!
FSD Beta 10.5 Driving In A Snow Storm:
00:00 - Intro
01:01 - Persistent Mapping Issue - Incorrect Speed Limit For Residential Streets In Minneapolis
01:38 - 2 x Disengagements - Occupancy Network Having Trouble Seeing Snow Bank Near Shoulder
02:25 - 2 x Disengagements / Confirmed Regression w/ 10.69.25.x - FSD Gets Confused w/ Lane Selection When Crossing 37th Ave NE & Central Ave NE
04:34 - Disengagement - Driver Decision Due To Lingering Snow Plow
04:55 - General Comments About Improved Path Planning In Snow
05:46 - Disengagement - Occupancy Network Having Trouble Seeing Snow Bank Near Shoulder
05:59 - Disengagement - Red Hands Due To S Loss In Traction
06:25 - Persistent Mapping Issue - FSD Signals As If It Will Attempt To Enter Oncoming Lane On St Anthony Pkwy
07:32 - Planner Continues To Do An Excellent Job w/ Placement Of Ego Car On St Anthony Pkwy (Even With Snow!)
08:12 - FSD Safely Slows Down When It Anticipates A Tight Fit
08:50 - Disengagement - FSD Having A Tough Time Seeing Centerline Covered By Snow
09:01 - Confirmed Improvement - Less Hesitation Before UPL Turn Onto 42nd Ave N
09:57 - Persistent Issue w/ 10.69.x - FSD Initiates Left Turn Too Early & Crosses Centerline
11:03 - Planner Does An Excellent Job Leveraging Usable Driving Space
11:38 - Confirmed Improvement - Perfect Line Selection w/ Left Turn Onto Dowling Ave N
This video contains footage recorded on the morning of January 19th, 2023 of FSD Beta 10.69.25.2 driving me from my home (NE Minneapolis) to my company’s office (Edina, MN) in the middle of a mild snow storm. It has been over a year since I last posted any videos (see below) of FSD Beta driving on snow covered roads so I figured it was time. When watching the two videos side by side you will quickly notice the improved confidence with path planning thanks in part to the occupancy networks properly mapping out usable driving space (most of the time). Keep up the great work Autopilot team!
FSD Beta 10.5 Driving In A Snow Storm:
00:00 - Intro
01:01 - Persistent Mapping Issue - Incorrect Speed Limit For Residential Streets In Minneapolis
01:38 - 2 x Disengagements - Occupancy Network Having Trouble Seeing Snow Bank Near Shoulder
02:25 - 2 x Disengagements / Confirmed Regression w/ 10.69.25.x - FSD Gets Confused w/ Lane Selection When Crossing 37th Ave NE & Central Ave NE
04:34 - Disengagement - Driver Decision Due To Lingering Snow Plow
04:55 - General Comments About Improved Path Planning In Snow
05:46 - Disengagement - Occupancy Network Having Trouble Seeing Snow Bank Near Shoulder
05:59 - Disengagement - Red Hands Due To S Loss In Traction
06:25 - Persistent Mapping Issue - FSD Signals As If It Will Attempt To Enter Oncoming Lane On St Anthony Pkwy
07:32 - Planner Continues To Do An Excellent Job w/ Placement Of Ego Car On St Anthony Pkwy (Even With Snow!)
08:12 - FSD Safely Slows Down When It Anticipates A Tight Fit
08:50 - Disengagement - FSD Having A Tough Time Seeing Centerline Covered By Snow
09:01 - Confirmed Improvement - Less Hesitation Before UPL Turn Onto 42nd Ave N
09:57 - Persistent Issue w/ 10.69.x - FSD Initiates Left Turn Too Early & Crosses Centerline
11:03 - Planner Does An Excellent Job Leveraging Usable Driving Space
11:38 - Confirmed Improvement - Perfect Line Selection w/ Left Turn Onto Dowling Ave N
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