Model 3 AWD Tyre Life

[Charl]

My Model 3P failed its WOF due to freak inside face wear on the front tyres at 36,000km
I reckoned that there was another 10 to 15k left on the tread.
I am wondering what Model 3 AWD drivers are getting on their cars, while getting around 170Wh/km?
(Just to remove the track racers )

 

[Audietron]

My Model 3P failed its WOF due to freak inside face wear on the front tyres at 36,000km
I reckoned that there was another 10 to 15k left on the tread.
I am wondering what Model 3 AWD drivers are getting on their cars, while getting around 170Wh/km?
(Just to remove the track racers )

Thanks for removing racers....
I just sold mine at 32000KM in September 1st week. tyre were inspected and commented by Tesla as having least 20000KM left on it, more if I am not driving and letting car drive as always.

 

[Steve_Chch]

My Model 3P failed its WOF due to freak inside face wear on the front tyres at 36,000km
I reckoned that there was another 10 to 15k left on the tread.
I am wondering what Model 3 AWD drivers are getting on their cars, while getting around 170Wh/km?
(Just to remove the track racers )

I'm not sure I can comment, I have 17k so far on the Hankooks that came with my LR, and likely will get to 30k (and I'm not going to be too upset when the time comes to replace them as I want to put something better on). Which is the best tyre life I've had in years (well, apart from the Subaru Outback 3.6R but that wasn't really a car for playing on the road) - on my RS3 I got about 10k out of two sets of Pirelli P-Zeros and 12k out of Michelin PS4S. (For what its worth, on that car the PS4S was the much better tyre; the P-Zero was downright scary in the wet particularly when they started to wear).

If you're getting inside face wear on the front and assuming tyre pressures are correct that suggests to me alignment needs checked - find out who your local alignment specialist is and get them to have a squiz.

 

[Charl]

Thanks for removing racers....
I just sold mine at 32000KM in September 1st week. tyre were inspected and commented by Tesla as having least 20000KM left on it, more if I am not driving and letting car drive as always.

Yup I reckon 50k is achievable with some reasonable care.
Were you running Pilot Sport 4S on 19" rim?

 

[Charl]

...on my RS3 I got about 10k out of two sets of Pirelli P-Zeros and 12k out of Michelin PS4S.

If you're getting inside face wear on the front and assuming tyre pressures are correct that suggests to me alignment needs checked.

Ouch I think you disqualified yourself!
But I agree on the P Zero, if I switched from Michelin I'd look at Bridgestones.
And yes, the strange wear pattern is the subject of an ongoing discussion with Tesla.

 

[Ecoli]

My Model 3P failed its WOF due to freak inside face wear on the front tyres at 36,000km
I reckoned that there was another 10 to 15k left on the tread.
I am wondering what Model 3 AWD drivers are getting on their cars, while getting around 170Wh/km?
(Just to remove the track racers )

M3P 2019 20" 60k
Failed WOF on tyres
Had to replace all
Not to bad I suppose 4 years on the original set.

 

[m3lol]

Wow how are you folks with M3P’s achieving 50-60k on your tyres?

I have a RWD and now on my 3rd set. First two sets got approx 38k kms and the current set is at 23k kms.

I was also diligently rotating every 10k ish.

 

[khayyam]

Are we talking about wearing them down below 1.5mm tread until they fail WoF? In my opinion that's too low and they should be replaced before then, the wet stopping distance in particular starts to suffer well before the legal threshold. If you're willing to run them right down obviously you can get a lot more k's. Changed ours at about 41k and 2.5mm.

 

[Charl]

Per the Michelin website:
"Although it may seem like a good idea to change your tyres when they begin to wear down and before reaching the legal limit tread depth, this is costly, unnecessary and can have a negative impact on the environment. On that matter, Michelin’s keeps innovating to offer tyres that can be safely used for as long as possible, until the legal tread wear limit. Thanks to Michelin’s Performance Made to Last, excellent longevity meets high level of performance, from the first to the last kilometer."
At $850 a pop, wearing from 7.5mm to 1.5mm costs around $142/mm.
If you are tossing 4 tyres at 2.5mm that is costing you an extra $570.

 

[khayyam]

Admirable of Michelin, esp. given their commercial interests. But there's also plenty to the contrary, e.g. Braking distances and tread depths

https://www.rospa.com/rospaweb/docs/advice-services/road-safety/vehicles/tyre-tread-depth.pdf

I'm not trying to convince anyone otherwise, knock yourself out running them down to WoF, it's legal. I just mean that when you're talking about how long tyres last some of the variation is in what you mean by that.

 

[Steve_Chch]

Admirable of Michelin, esp. given their commercial interests. But there's also plenty to the contrary, e.g. Braking distances and tread depths

https://www.rospa.com/rospaweb/docs/advice-services/road-safety/vehicles/tyre-tread-depth.pdf

I'm not trying to convince anyone otherwise, knock yourself out running them down to WoF, it's legal. I just mean that when you're talking about how long tyres last some of the variation is in what you mean by that.

I'm very skeptical of those reports since they neglect to identify the tyre(s) tested, which makes me suspect they're the el-cheapo budget variety rather than a decent one. IME Michelin UHP variety don't fall off near the end of their life anything like that dramatically. That said, I always think it best to keep an eye on them and replace when they get down to the TWI and not some time after.

 

[Charl]

With my newly-purchased digital tyre tread depth gauge, I measured my new PS4S's to see how much tread you can lose before the legal 1.5mm requirement.
The only online reference I could find mentions tread depth as 9.5 32nds of an inch (!)
Anyway that translates to 7.54mm
To my surprise the measured tread depth varies across the width: Max 6.9mm in the centre down to Min 5.87mm on the outer edge.
That looks to me like a tyre that has run under-inflated.
I have posted a question to Michelin, but they are not responding.
Curious and curiouser, I'd have thought the tread should be same across the width..

 

[Audietron]

Yup I reckon 50k is achievable with some reasonable care.
Were you running Pilot Sport 4S on 19" rim?

19 inch... but sadly what came from tesla, hankook ones...
FSD increases life for sure... much better driver and handles stability of vehicle nicely.

 

[Audietron]

Wow how are you folks with M3P’s achieving 50-60k on your tyres?

I have a RWD and now on my 3rd set. First two sets got approx 38k kms and the current set is at 23k kms.

I was also diligently rotating every 10k ish.

you might be a boy racer in denial?
I rotated only after 29000KM as forgot... still sold with some 32000+ and most likely will finish 50000+... but credit might be to FSD, as car loves to stay stable.

 

[Audietron]

Are we talking about wearing them down below 1.5mm tread until they fail WoF? In my opinion that's too low and they should be replaced before then, the wet stopping distance in particular starts to suffer well before the legal threshold. If you're willing to run them right down obviously you can get a lot more k's. Changed ours at about 41k and 2.5mm.

That would be like throwing away 20% paste in toothpaste tube everytime... because you can.
legal limit is there so that's lowest safe level to drive... limit was decided when none of the other safety features exist in production - and never changed.
so with level of safety features with tesla, technological advancements with tyres, and road quality improvement (or not) over time... legal limit was set 22 years before in 2001 as per following link:

https://www.nzta.govt.nz/assets/resources/rules/docs/tyres-and-wheels-2001-as-at-1-may-2021.pdf

 

[Matt_NZ]

I've now done two sets on my 2019 Long Range Performance. The first set was done at 47k, the second set was done just last week at 45k. On both occasions, all four tyres had even wear, despite not bothering to do any rotations on the second set.

The first set I replaced with OEM Pilot Sport 4 (T0 spec), this latest set I've gone with the Hankook Ion Evo.

 

[Charl]

Good distances... did you notice any difference between the Michelin and Hankook noise levels?

 

[Matt_NZ]

The Hankook's definitely seem quieter when on everything except rough chipseal. I don't think any tyre can do much to improve that experience haha

 

[Audietron]

In my Model Y I got Micheline pilot... much better than hankook in my model 3.

 

[DanBoy]

My car failed it's latest WOF, all four tyres have 4mm of tread but the front two need replacing due to excessive inside wear...... Interesting to see this may be a Tesla problem, they are only a year old!