Other people have provided official links as they say the same way you will. They say they have received emails and other official communications with Tesla and posted it as official.
Fair, but I don't recall Elon posting on Twitter about the performance Model S in such a way as to set the expectation that it would be a legitimate BMW M5 competitor. The performance Model 3, on the other hand...
That would suggest (I would hope), if red calipers are more than just red in color, that AWD calipers != Performance calipers if the above logic where to pan out.. thus I find it even harder to believe Tesla would have different caliper sets for
1) rear drive
2) AWD,
3) performance
4) performance plus.
To repeat, just my musing so flames to /dev/null
I wish Tesla (Elon?) would come out and provide the details.
Well just speculating like everyone else - also I feel if you provide a car with faster acceleration you should provide brakes to match. More regen with AWD isn't enough to cover it (in my book) since there are times when regen is limited due to temperature, battery SOC or other reasons.
That would suggest (I would hope), if red calipers are more than just red in color, that AWD calipers != Performance calipers if the above logic where to pan out.. thus I find it even harder to believe Tesla would have different caliper sets for
1) rear drive
2) AWD,
3) performance
4) performance plus.
To repeat, just my musing so flames to /dev/null
I wish Tesla (Elon?) would come out and provide the details.
I think..... If you can get to 60 MPH in 2 seconds as opposed to 6 seconds would require the same brakes to get back down to 0 MPH. It really does not take more brakes to get from 60 to 0 just because you get up to 60MPH quicker on the acceleration side.Well just speculating like everyone else - also I feel if you provide a car with faster acceleration you should provide brakes to match. More regen with AWD isn't enough to cover it (in my book) since there are times when regen is limited due to temperature, battery SOC or other reasons.
That would suggest (I would hope), if red calipers are more than just red in color, that AWD calipers != Performance calipers if the above logic where to pan out.. thus I find it even harder to believe Tesla would have different caliper sets for
1) rear drive
2) AWD,
3) performance
4) performance plus.
To repeat, just my musing so flames to /dev/null
I wish Tesla (Elon?) would come out and provide the details.
better tires are the only thing that insures shorter stopping distances- they're what limits the cars ability to stop every time no matter how massive the brakes are.Wouldn't you have more room if you get to speed quicker?
Apart from which, in a single panic stop where you realize you made a mistake, "bigger" brakes won't help you at all.
Stock model 3 with stock brakes and say 20" wheels to give us space for part 2.... and same car with the biggest brakes that'll fit under 20" wheels will both stop in exactly the same distance with the same tires on the wheels.
The brakes don't stop the car, the tires do.
See also that $10,000 brake upgrade Porsche sells... that stops the car in exactly the same distance the stock brakes do the first time. It's the 50th time in back-to-back-to-back abuse on a race track that those 10k brakes do anything useful.... and even then all they do is maintain that same-as-stock distance over more of those repeated abusive stops- they never, and can't, stop the car shorter than the stock brakes could the first time
Well you're on to something there
Interestingly- Tesla didn't do so on the S or X though.
I mean, you factually don't, because that's not how physics works....
A car going 60 that got there in 3.5 seconds and then moves to the brake pedal, and a car going 60 that got there in 4.5 seconds and then moves to the brake pedal have literally the same momentum
momentum is equal to mass times velocity. Both cars have the same mass (barring one driver being fatter I suppose...) and the same velocity. Therefore both cars have exactly the same momentum.
And again, you're limited by the tires. "better brakes" won't help at all for street use since even the stock brakes can apply more force than the tires can use, and won't experience fade doing it.
No, it's a fact based understanding of how physics works, and pointing out that for people not taking their Tesla to a (non-drag) race track, a brake upgrade will do literally nothing useful on the car.
For folks who do intend to race the car on a track better brakes might well make a significant difference because unlike in street driving they will be repeatedly stopping back to back to back from high speeds....
(but even then the car won't ever stop shorter than it could the first time with stock brakes... it'll just maintain that distance over more heavy duty stops before it gets longer)
I checked all buttons and I'm not going to the track. I plan on using the 0-60 times every day, however I have no plans to utilize the 155 top speed.
