Wood1030
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Yes. Demo models come with FSD. Someone else has said that it can be removed once you start the "Buy" process. Apparently you can config the Demo to not have FSD, bringing the price down closer to what a "New" model would cost.
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I think it's because of the FSD yeah, it's 10K more than a new one. With taxes and everything a new M3P Red + White comes out to 63K
Ribeyesteak
Member
2-11 weeks blows, it's such a large range that it's the same as having a blank EDD. Perhaps Tesla is running into more parts/chips issues and the now-removed lumbar support isn't enough to maintain production. 
Cross posting this from Reddit…
Maybe this gives us some hope that we still might see Q2.
Maybe this gives us some hope that we still might see Q2.
CarolinaBMXers
Member
yup, joined also.... went from 6/18-6/30 to 2-11 weeks......ordered 5/16........ive sold my car (great deal coudnt pass up).....made plans for the month, but wont wait 11 more weeks........
I'm like you in that I don't really let me people drive my cars, unless it's service. My current ICE is a stick shift, and people think I'm crazy because I flat out refuse to valet park it. I have three friends that I'd be ok with driving it in an emergency I guess. They all own the same car.
I stayed in a hotel last month for work, and of course the parking was either valet at the hotel, or park two blocks away. I decided to self park, but the valet wanted to hold my keys just while I was unloading my luggage (no driveway at this hotel). I asked him if he could drive stick, and he said "I can learn"
I sure hope he was joking! Anyway I basically threw my luggage at the front desk so I could go park before this valet needed to move my car.
Ribeyesteak
Member
LMAO at the "I can learn statement." A lot of valet drivers are in their teens or early 20s and they don't give two *sugars* about neutral dropping / clutch popping / giving 50% throttle and 10% clutch engagement.
coreylista
Member
Co-worker who ordered at the exact same time I did and has had his VIN since early this week, now just got the text to schedule his pickup.... now I am REALLY getting pissed off... He had a trade in, while I didn't and have since sold my car... I wonder if that played a role in him getting his sooner.
Red Leader NH
Member
I’ve never let a valet drive a car... pissed of a GF or two but it’s just not happening. Seen too many YouTube’s of them going through a wall or over cement barriers. I’d rather eat MacDonalds or sleep in a dive motel before letting some rando in my car. Totally fine walking a few blocks to self park.
mend of the day something we’re to happen I’d blame myself and can’t live with the shame...
Red Leader NH
Member
Yeah... also nope
My friends have nice fast cars but we have an unspoken rule not to ask... be like asking to sleep with their wife in my circle. Them’s fighting words...sounds about right.. I don't let folks drive my cars, not about being mean, but if someone messes up my car, It becomes my problem not theirs.Yeah... also nope
Question to those in Massachusetts. We finnaly have a vin number.... and tesla wants us to provide proof of insurance. My insurance guy said he cant do anything till there is a title, and other forms... RMV¹ i think he said. What are you MA guys doing. Do i just submit insurance info for the vehicle im trading in?
coreylista
Member
Just got off the phone with my SA and he says he can "see" that I have a "soft VIN" assigned to a car that is slated to get a "hard VIN" or "stamped" around the 9th when it comes off the line.... has anyone heard of Tesla using these terms or did he just make them up to appease me?
Who is your insurance provider? I sent my VIN Over to my Insurance Agent, she got me an RMV1 form that's stamped and a policy update..
From what I've seen of the internal Tesla systems, my guess is he is just making up these terms to appease you.
The "hard vin" or "stamped" date is probably what is showing in his system as the Factory Gate Date, which changes basically daily from what I've seen of mine. The "soft vin" probably doesn't exist.
I'm also in this boat and the one call and email I've sent to Dedham aren't being returned. I've uploaded my insurance declarations insurance for my current cars but I don't know what the process is now. I gave my agent the VIN but she said she can't do anything until I've paid for the car.
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