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Model S - USB Port Compilation Thread

Discussion in 'Model S: Interior & Exterior' started by gctseng, Jan 20, 2015.

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  1. gctseng

    gctseng All around good guy

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    #1 gctseng, Jan 20, 2015
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    I was reading more about USB ports on the Tesla as I'm thinking of "expanding" the ports on the Model S to passengers (read "kids") in the rear seat (e.g., let them plug in USB devices to play their music) in addition to charging devices. Along the way, I found a few threads that had to do with the USB ports in the Tesla and thought it may be useful to others to have a compilation as well as my own investigations.

    GENERAL INFORMATION

    Each Tesla USB ports provide 1 amps at 5V, and both are remain "on" even when the power is off (unlike the 12V plug).

    USB HUBS
    See my upcoming post with full details coming...
    Tested with travel, un-powered generic USB hub, and powered USB 3.0 hub.
    Result=working with
    mice (wired USB)

    USB MICE AND KEYBOARDS
    USB Keyboard and Mouse

    Result=working with mice (wired USB), not working for keyboards

    USB DRIVES FOR MUSIC (AKA "thumbdrives" and also SSD's)
    Small question about using a USB stick to play music...
    Hardwiring a 12V or USB-powered SSD - possible?

    Result=working

    USB NETWORK ADAPTERS
    MODEL S EXPERIMENT: Plug in a USB wifi adapter in the usb socket,?

    Result=not working

    FORMATTING USB DRIVES
    Proper way to format USB thumb drive?

    Formats supported
    YES: Fat, Fat32, ext3, ext4.
    NO: exFAT

    Recommended Formatting Software
    Windows: Free Partition Manager for Window PC | MiniTool Partition Wizard Free Edition

    Special characters in file and folder names can cause the Model S to choke

    OLDER POSTS
    Has Anyone Implemented USB for Rear Seat Passengers?

    Let me know if I'm missing anything, but I know about the floppy drive and older USB devices working and I just need to find the post. I didn't post anything outside of the TMC website, but I can if I don't find the information repeated in a thread here.
     
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    ITEMS USED

    1. USB Powered (3.0) Hub*

    Anker® Uspeed USB 3.0 4-Port Hub + 5V 2.1A Charge-Only Port, 12V 3A Power Adapter and 3.5-foot USB 3.0 Cable Included
    Amazon.com: Anker® Uspeed USB 3.0 4-Port Hub + 5V 2.1A Charge-Only Port, 12V 3A Power Adapter and 3.5-foot USB 3.0 Cable Included: Computers Accessories

    Apple System Information
    USB 3.0 Hub:
    Product ID: 0x0812
    Vendor ID: 0x2109 (VIA Labs, Inc.)
    Version: 85.81
    Speed: Up to 5 Gb/sec
    Manufacturer: VIA Labs, Inc.
    Location ID: 0x15200000 / 14
    Current Available (mA): 900
    Current Required (mA): 0


    2. USB Non-powered (2.0) Hub

    I don't have a link to the product since I found this in my "generic computer stuff" drawer, but I believe it's got the same internals as this IO Gear 4-port Hi-Speed USB hub:
    IOGEAR - GUH285 - 4-Port USB 2.0 HUB

    Apple System Information
    AX9254 HUB:
    Product ID: 0x2254
    Vendor ID: 0x068f
    Version: 1.00
    Speed: Up to 12 Mb/sec
    Manufacturer:
    Location ID: 0x14200000 / 5
    Current Available (mA): 500
    Current Required (mA): 100

    3. USB Thumbdrive

    Generic USB drive, again found in my parts drawer, volume titled ASUS.

    Apple System Information
    USB DISK:
    Product ID: 0x0165
    Vendor ID: 0x1307 (USBest Technology Inc.)
    Version: 1.00
    Serial Number: 000000000013A8
    Speed: Up to 480 Mb/sec
    Manufacturer:
    Location ID: 0x14200000 / 15
    Current Available (mA): 500
    Current Required (mA): 98
    Capacity: 505.4 MB (505,413,632 bytes)
    Removable Media: Yes
    Detachable Drive: Yes
    BSD Name: disk4
    Partition Map Type: MBR (Master Boot Record)
    S.M.A.R.T. status: Not Supported

    Volumes:
    ASUS:
    Capacity: 505.4 MB (505,354,752 bytes)
    Available: 483.4 MB (483,409,920 bytes)
    Writable: Yes
    File System: MS-DOS FAT16
    BSD Name: disk4s1
    Mount Point: /Volumes/ASUS
    Content: DOS_FAT_32
    Volume UUID: 6A418B59-8C12-3A9F-88F1-0D447D6EF991


    RESULTS

    Mouse and drive worked on both hubs (cursor was movable, music was detected), and funny enough is that if you turn off the Tesla using the screen, you can "wake it" by moving the mouse, like you can if you touch the screen--not surprising because the computer was probably in "sleep" mode.

    I haven't plugged in multiple USB drives to see what happens, but I will tomorrow and see what happens.

    Miscellaneous results note:

    Before anyone asks, yes, I did try plugging the USB cable of each of the hubs to USB jack of the other to see if the Tesla could handle multiple layers:

    1. Mouse->USB2->USB3->Tesla: Works!
    2. USB Drive->USB2->USB3->Tesla: NO
    3. Any device->USB3->USB2->Tesla: NO

    I didn't have time to mess around more with it because I don't think anyone really needs to stack multiple hubs, especially because you can probably just buy a 7-port hub if you need that many or even just get two hubs (one for each Tesla USB port).
     
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    I have tried a Netgear/Sierra 763S Wifi hotspot that also can offer a tethered network connection over USB but the Tesla did not appear to be able to connect to the network over USB. Of course it can connect to the hotspot via Wifi and give you an LTE connection.

    I am wondering if the Model X will have more backseat connectivity?
     
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    would this work?
     

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