Model S/X deliveries with Intel-based MCU

[Trebek1762]

Whoever got their DS to roll over their deposit to a new one, please PM me their DS info.

Mine won’t do it and said they’d be surprised if any DS would do that.

 

[HankLloydRight]

I wonder if that gives us confirmation that the IC has been redesigned as part of the MCU refresh...

I really can't image them rolling out a new MCU with Intel 64bit architecture, and leaving behind the Tegra IC module intact. That's like getting a new 4K TV and leaving it hooked up to a DVD player (ok, it's a backwards analogy, but you get the point).

 

[Nickg]

No I do not work for Tesla. You asked a question and told them that you were OK with a "I do not know" answer, and then refused to accept the "I do not know" answer. Pretty unreasonable don't you think?

Okay - your point is fair. I did ask Tesla for a ‘yes’ or ‘no’. Steve’s response is corporate bullsh@t and probably the only answer he is allowed to give. I am just asking if I hand over £100k next week Tesla will commit to support the hardware platform I am paying for. I am trying to force an answer that everybody on this forum and anybody with any intellect can deduce - the answer is “no”. I am prepared to meet my contractual commitments - whatever the answer. The problem is Tesla is not willing to be honest to me and tell me the truth - because they know they will have to deal with the consequences wit the wider forum.

That is simply not a fair way to behave. I am looking at swapping our central London sales vehicles to electric - we have a huge NO2 problem on the UK and I am passionate about air quality. As we know with VW trust is built on honesty and fair play. I don’t see either in this case - again I reiterate I have not asked Tesla for anyting - I accept my deposit is probably gone. I have just asked for an honest answer to my question.

 

[eyespii]

And my response

Steve,

Yet again no straightforward answer!!!

I will publish this response on TMC. I will not agree a delivery unless you can give me an answer to my question:

‘Will future software development and functional changes will be lockstep across both hardware platforms?’

The ball is in your court. I am seriously disappointed with the ducking and diving. I have not asked for anything financially - just an honest answer which you have not provided.

Nick

And my response

Steve,

Yet again no straightforward answer!!!

I will publish this response on TMC. I will not agree a delivery unless you can give me an answer to my question:

‘Will future software development and functional changes will be lockstep across both hardware platforms?’

The ball is in your court. I am seriously disappointed with the ducking and diving. I have not asked for anything financially - just an honest answer which you have not provided.

Nick

It sounds like you are looking for a definitive yes or no, when in reality no one can answer that because no one knows what the new MCU will allow that the old one will not. But I suspect you knew that before you sent the email in the first place...

 

[eyespii]

Okay - your point is fair. I did ask Tesla for a ‘yes’ or ‘no’. Steve’s response is corporate bullsh@t and probably the only answer he is allowed to give. I am just asking if I hand over £100k next week Tesla will commit to support the hardware platform I am paying for. I am trying to force an answer that everybody on this forum and anybody with any intellect can deduce - the answer is “no”. I am prepared to meet my contractual commitments - whatever the answer. The problem is Tesla is not willing to be honest to me and tell me the truth - because they know they will have to deal with the consequences wit the wider forum.

That is simply not a fair way to behave. I am looking at swapping our central London sales vehicles to electric - we have a huge NO2 problem on the UK and I am passionate about air quality. As we know with VW trust is built on honesty and fair play. I don’t see either in this case - again I reiterate I have not asked Tesla for anyting - I accept my deposit is probably gone. I have just asked for an honest answer to my question.

In this case, “I don’t know” is the most correct and honest answer they can give you with the information they have at hand.

 

[bhzmark]

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I am just asking if I hand over £100k next week Tesla will commit to support the hardware platform I am paying for.

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unless you can give me an answer to my question:

‘Will future software development and functional changes will be lockstep across both hardware platforms?’

I can tell that you are the sort of person that will not be good for Tesla and the Tesla will not be good for you. You can't understand the subtle point that all products will be supported to varying degrees -- even the roadster is still supported. But they can't make promises about future updates and support across legacy hardware. So the answer to you is NO -- they can't promise you "lockstep" anything into the indefinite future.

You didn't really even have to ask them that. The answer is obvious. Probably better for all concerned for you to buy something else. Seriously.

 

[bhzmark]

Tesla has little history of supporting previous hardware.

uncorking for nearly all models going back to P85D in early 2015, ludicrous for P85Ds, various roadster upgrades. LTE upgrades. And a bunch I'm not remembering. And no other car mfr comes close. Basically your statement is about as completely wrong as it could possibly be.

 

[Nickg]

It sounds like you are looking for a definitive yes or no, when in reality no one can answer that because no one knows what the new MCU will allow that the old one will not. But I suspect you knew that before you sent the email in the first place...

You are right. I know the answer is ‘no’ - I am just trying to force Tesla to be honest #fail. I know I will ditch my deposit (£4K - $5k) over this - my fault for ordering and taking the ‘when was your car built lottery’

Luckily I can afford it - but I think the Tesla approach is wrong. They should be honest about fundamental changes that affect future upgrades

 

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[HankLloydRight]

ou are right. I know the answer is ‘no’ - I am just trying to force Tesla to be honest #fail.

But the answer isn't "no".. it's "we don't know what the future holds". For all intents and purposes, they just might keep the platforms in "lockstep" but then again, maybe they won't. Who knows?

Is it really worth losing £4K to teach Tesla a little lesson? The reality is, your little spat isn't going to teach or change Tesla one bit (other than raking in an extra £4K for nothing, thank you very much BTW as a stockholder).

They have been completely up front and honest with you. Why can't you see that? The bottom line is you're trying to catch them in some sort of legal commitment which you can then hold over their heads when they don't meet that commitment. Guess what? They're smarter than that and giving you the absolute most honest answer they can give you. You're not the smartest guy in the room.

BTW, are you a lawyer?

 

[evster]

Wonder if this thread can surpass the Model 3 Alcantaragate?

 

[Nickg]

I am so glad this forum is full of people who would give Tesla £100k for obsolete hardware - you are richer than I am!!

 

[Nickg]

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I can tell that you are the sort of person that will not be good for Tesla and the Tesla will not be good for you. You can't understand the subtle point that all products will be supported to varying degrees -- even the roadster is still supported. But they can't make promises about future updates and support across legacy hardware. So the answer to you is NO -- they can't promise you "lockstep" anything into the indefinite future.

You didn't really even have to ask them that. The answer is obvious. Probably better for all concerned for you to buy something else. Seriously.

Seriously - I haven’t even even

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I can tell that you are the sort of person that will not be good for Tesla and the Tesla will not be good for you. You can't understand the subtle point that all products will be supported to varying degrees -- even the roadster is still supported. But they can't make promises about future updates and support across legacy hardware. So the answer to you is NO -- they can't promise you "lockstep" anything into the indefinite future.

You didn't really even have to ask them that. The answer is obvious. Probably better for all concerned for you to buy something else. Seriously.

But the answer isn't "no".. it's "we don't know what the future holds". For all intents and purposes, they just might keep the platforms in "lockstep" but then again, maybe they won't. Who knows?

Is it really worth losing £4K to teach Tesla a little lesson? The reality is, your little spat isn't going to teach or change Tesla one bit (other than raking in an extra £4K for nothing, thank you very much BTW as a stockholder).

They have been completely up front and honest with you. Why can't you see that? The bottom line is you're trying to catch them in some sort of legal commitment which you can then hold over their heads when they don't meet that commitment. Guess what? They're smarter than that and giving you the absolute most honest answer they can give you. You're not the smartest guy in the room.

BTW, are you a lawyer?

No - I am not a lawyer. But I am also not an idoit. I am merely asking for an answer to a simple question before I hand over £106,000.

 

[nagypite]

I am so glad this forum is full of people who would give Tesla £100k for obsolete hardware - you are richer than I am!!

Most of them are Tesla employee...

 

[eyespii]

Seriously - I haven’t even even


No - I am not a lawyer. But I am also not an idoit. I am merely asking for an answer to a simple question before I hand over £106,000.

You got an answer that you don’t like, and now you’re pouting.

 

[Nickg]

You got an answer that you don’t like, and now you’re pouting.

Fair enough. To be fair I am not looking for anything from this forum. I am only posting to be helpful to others who are in the same predicament as me. To everybody else - good luck. Last post from me.....


And to any member who cheers that I look forward to your post when the Tegra MCU is abandoned by Tesla from future upgrades and you start to complain. At the moment I don’t ‘own’ that problem and I don’t intend to pay £100k to do so.

 

[McSaggler]

I CC'd my Owner Advisor in the original email I sent to my Delivery Specialist asking about the new MCU, since my DS did not give me a proper answer. For anyone curious, this is what my OA said:

"Just want to let you know that your Model S should have the new MCU according to the built spec."

Crossing my fingers hoping this is true. Prod started 3/12/18. Status says still under production on My Tesla account.

Specs: 75D, Pearl White exterior, White Interior w/ carbon fiber decor, PUP, 19inch standard wheels, Sunroof, VIN: 2468XX.

 

[PiercePeniless]

Fair enough. To be fair I am not looking for anything from this forum. I am only posting to be helpful to others who are in the same predicament as me. To everybody else - good luck. Last post from me.....


And to any member who cheers that I look forward to your post when the Tegra MCU is abandoned by Tesla from future upgrades and you start to complain. At the moment I don’t ‘own’ that problem and I don’t intend to pay £100k to do so.

Please don't go, I just got here! You have the advance opportunity to not accept the product. However it's going to cost you to change your order, just like if you didn't like the paint or something else. But it'll be worth the wait for the best car in the universe. Check the heavens for a recent update!

 

[Joshker]

Was planning to take delivery of our MX Vin 904xx. Got a call from DS. We did get the upgraded MCU, but apparently they are putting a hold on deliveries due to a problem with the driver display going blank. Back to the waiting game.

I wonder if that gives us confirmation that the IC has been redesigned as part of the MCU refresh...

So I just got the same call unfortunately... VIN 2468XX March 7th build start. My delivery specialist hasn't been able to answer my question on whether or not my car was equipped with the new MCU but common sense would suggest it is... He said there is a bulletin that just came out last night stating that there is an issue with the IC coming on (it stays blank) when opening the door and that Tesla is suspending all deliveries until a fix is out. He states Tesla's engineers are all over it and they are hoping to roll out an update in the next 24-48 hours hopefully. Does anybody have access to these bulletins or have any additional info? Is there really a reason Tesla can't allow us to take delivery as planned until it's fixed? From a customer service standpoint I'd rather take possession of a car I'm paying for on time and possibly expect to experience a "bug" than to delay the delivery when an OTA update is expected either way.

 

[el_tlatoani]

Whoever got their DS to roll over their deposit to a new one, please PM me their DS info.

Mine won’t do it and said they’d be surprised if any DS would do that.

Before sending him your DS’ info, I’d check with them. They are not happy with people giving out their info as they deal with hundreds of customers already. I speak from experience