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Thanks for posting the latest pictures! I absolutely love the Model S and the updated interior. There in my view however is one big eye sore. The tail-lights. I can't get my head around why they make big changes to the car and keep the dotted led's in the rear that gives the car the look 8 years...

Lovely car and the red with the contrasting black trim looks the business! BUT! why are everyone who are lucky to spot these cars such rubbish photographers? Vertical photos in weird angles 🤦‍♂️

Adjustable headrests in the back seats is something new for the refresh. Maybe there will also be similar adjustability in the front seats?

Anyone who have the new Model S order in their account with 2k discount and have changed configuration? for example adding the 21" wheels or change to another color. Will the 2k discount still be kept when updating the design by "edit my spec" in my Tesla account? I'm considering adding the 21"...

Model 3 and Y Performance come standard with 20" Uberturbine in grey. Sporty! Yet the Model S Plaid comes with those 19" Tempest wheels that looks kind of dull. Wheels are very important for the overall looks so why didn't Tesla give the Plaid some nice base wheels?

Maybe this has been mentioned in this mega thread already, but it looks like the side indicators are much bigger than on the current model. It also extend further out from the front fender. Are we seeing digital mirrors here? This could also explain "more screens than the previous model"

Did you read my earlier post in this thread regarding that there is a difference with European spec Teslas? This guy you're calling out seems to be located in EU as well... Don't judge someones information wrong based on your own lack of knowledge. Or have you tested an EU Spec Model 3 or any...

It's a thing in Europe and the headlights are probably performing better in USA. If lights are NOT equipped with auto leveling function in Europe the lumen output is limited due to law. Since Tesla has not auto leveling on ANY of their models, all Tesla lights are nerfed in Europe. I have an EU...

Those new headlights looks ace. The projector will beam wider and a produce much more even light cone. The current Model 3 headlights looks so dated and has done since release. All European cars have these kind of lights so I'm happy to see that Tesla follow down the same path. Tesla have for...

Any news on the new Headlights and more detailed pictures? Those actually excite me more than the heatpump

Not sure if this has been mentioned, but seems like Tesla will produce it's own batteries in Berlin! Confirmed in local german newspaper this afternoon! google translated: Berlin - Elon Musk also plans to produce the battery cells needed for the electric cars manufactured there in the new...

Thanks for the replies! Seems like mine have a bit too much gap then. I think I might return it for this reason, plus that I actually do find 3rd party versions might be better. Came across this new video that compare the Tesla original shade and a 3rd party one. I do prefer the less light that...

I recently got the Tesla original sunshade for my Model 3. It does work as advertised, but I'm a little bit concerned about the fitment front/back. On the sides it fits pretty snug, but front back there will be a little "open" distance in the middle section of the roof. It's impossible to adjust...

This was spotted at the factory in Fremont just recently. It's happening! :cool::D

Can we close at 666,66? :D

Wrote a post earlier regards to the Model 3 being nominated as World car of the year 2020 and that the reveal of the winner would take place on Monday at the Motor Show. Seems like now the entire Geneva Motorshow has been canceled due to Coronavirus :( Geneva car show canceled as coronavirus...

Few thoughts completely separated from the Coronavirus... Could there be an ongoing re-tooling for the Model S/X line that will swift rollout the long overdue facelift with new interior and a few other bits and bobs in combination with the new battery packs? Reason for elaborating is because in...

Guys, you just have to watch this if you haven't already. "Analyst" on Teslas competitors :D

The US Plaid car that did the Laguna Seca record run had Alcantara on the dashboard interior and also the old silver trim around the air vents, MCU, etc. The alcantara on the dash got removed early 2017 from production so the dash in that car is for sure from an older car as well as the rest of...

1. Don't draw any conclusions based on the red car with all the bolt-on aero changes. It is just and old shell covering the new drivetrain. Heck, even the interior that was shown in the Laguna Seca car was DATED. It had the alcantara on the dashboard and the old alu-trim. So that one also an OLD...

Interesting with this pinch and zoom possibility for surrounding cars. This will however not be possible on Model S/X since it doesn't have the touch screen in the instrument cluster similar to Model 3. Wonder how they will handle this between the cars?

Just close this thread because nothing new to see here. The car pictured has VIN 305xxx which is a pre-Raven Model S. It's just an old 100D that was rated with NEDC just like all the Model S and X in Europe were listed before Raven introduced, which had to be certified according to the more...

Any news on this? I find it really strange that we don't here more about speed sign recognition and a Neural Net that perform this task? This should be one of the mandatory features towards FSD. I know there is talk about traffic light recognition and stop sign recognition, but speed signs...

I think the S need upgraded headlights and rear lights. They can keep the same housing/panels, but just change out the LED signature to a more modern version. One thing that REALLY looks old are the rear lights on the Model S with the ancient dotted LEDs.

This is spot on! I think many people who just jump into a 3 quickly in the showroom or drive around the block doesn't fully get it. When having got used to the 3 for some time it is for sure the better designed interior and the S feels a bit pre-historic when you drive that again. I would go...

I really hope we will get new headlights and rearlights for the Model S. Headlights on the S are really bad in terms of performance and spread of light compared to Model 3 and the Rear lights on the S looks so dated that I don't know where to start. They turn me off massively with the dot LED...

Can 100% confirm that there has been deliveries today of both Model 3 SR+ and Model S Raven in Sweden. So they are coming even in north of Europe some distance from port of Zeebrugge :)

Clearly a comment from someone clueless lacking experience with the Model 3. I have both Model S and 3 and actually much prefer the 3 in about every aspect except for the fact that it has less luggage space. The screen placement is fantastic and much more ergonomic placed than the curren S/X...

Demand seems to be really good in the UK! Everyone wants to lease a Tesla Model 3 Bonus: 197 cars delivered today in Norway. Go Tesla! :D

There is a simple answer. There are more or less no car coming to Norway for delivery early in a quarter. April deliveries are just left overs from March. The new ships are arriving as we speak and May and specifically June figures will explode. So those who look at first month in a quarter for...

When I got the standard AP I thought that user activated auto-lane-change still was part of the AP-package. It is very annoying to disengage for every lane change. Not just the process itself, but also the sound that can't be disabled when deactivating and activating AutoSteer. At this point I...

Very interesting info, but something just doesn't add up. The new motors and the new adaptive air suspension is in production, but without the interior refresh, new seats and new headlights/rear lights and active aero you're talking about. MotorTrend drove the new Long Range version with the...

I think you need more time to adapt than just a quick drive. I mean, if you're used to PC and I throw a Mac at you then you would have difficulties the first minutes navigating shortcuts and other things. And of course the other way around. But after some time with that Mac you will adapt and...

If your buddy have that bad vision I question why he/she drive at all? It seems to be very unsafe for other drivers around if one can't see things on the screen, how then detect things around the car and act upon them?

Why? In general it is easier for the human eye to see wide than vertical. Do you also wish your TV at home had a vertical layout? :p Question: All of you who don't like the Model 3 setup, have you tried for some time or just decided beforehand without giving it a chance? I'm in the camp that...

I had the same view regarding Model 3 single screen and speedo in the center until I got a Model 3. Now I absolutely love the setup with one screen and prefer it over current S/X with two screens. It just easier and more logic with everything in one location (when you have adapted to it). Many...

No rumored updates to the front and headlights? The headlights in Model 3 are much better than X/S and I would hope that they get the deserved upgrade and even better if they put some Matrix headlights in there. Also would make sense to update S/X with new LED signature in front, wouldn't it?

This is 100% NOT a AP3-car. It's just AP2.5HW. There are no cars in the UK with APH4 (AP3) at this point because the transport ships with the first builds will not arrive with these cars prior to May. Interesting watch anyway. But for sure not with HW3. The guy in the video got it all wrong ;)

Model 3 in Europe start to get 2019.12 updates with some new cool stuff. See release notes for details.

Could we see higher resolution images and video for the dashcam and sentry mode with HW3 due to better performance? Thought I've read that the cameras are higher res, but the AP2.5 computer can't process at a higher resolution because of cpu limitations.

Bumping this thread now when it is starting to get more imminent :D I'm surprised that there is not more talk over the "CH09" option that is now in all manufacture strings for European cars. This is something that indicates a change to the charger/charge port. Could this be the switch to CCS...

Yes, but that is about APH4. The CH09 code can reveal that we have a facelift on the back for Model S/X and CCS port on European models!

Can CH09 mean CCS port for Model S/X in Europe (to align with Model 3 CCS) and that mean that we have a new facelifted back-end on those cars that has been rumored for some while?? Because the CCS charge port does not fit in the existing housing in the back of Model S/X so it needs to be bigger...

Thanks for info. A bit strange that they still pump out cars with the old naming standard even though they changed months ago in the design studio. Can't be that hard to change a badge to reflect what the customer actually has ordered. Or just leave out the badge and change the graphics in the...

Thanks for sharing! Isn't that a bit strange that they stick with the badging even though they clearly got rid of that nomenclature earlier this year? At some point they for sure need to change this. I mean, what type of badge will they put on the "Standard range" Model S that has shorter range...

Out of interest... What kind of badge is on your rear trunk lid? Long Range?

Couple of months???? I'm getting crazy over this wait! Just give us that imminent update NOW or the 14th! :D

Any news/confirmation on wether HW3 is in cars produced from 9th January or not? Is there a way to validate HW-version without taking the car apart and look at the actual computer? Deliveries have started now in Europe so someone should be able to examine/check this out!

Black is by far my favorite color and the nicest on any Tesla IMO. I previously had a Midnight silver S100D and really disliked the color and thought it was dull. A black car to my eye looks better no matter what and I was always jealous of the black Model S when charging at Supercharging...

If HW3 will improve the NN for Autowipers and sensing rain in the dark I'll be a happy camper :p