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The Subaru Crosstrek sold 88,927 units in the US during 2015. It is basically what used to be called a 4WD Tall Wagon. It was outsold by the Impreza, Outback, and Forester in its own product line. The Honda CRV, Toyota RAV4, and Ford Escape each sold over 300,000 units here last year. The CR-V and RAV4 each sold over 650,000 units worldwide last year. Those are very popular, as both are in the Top 10 worldwide. And... I'm pretty sure there will be a version of the Model ≡ that will be classified by most as a Crossover/Wagon no matter what configuration the rumored Model Y ends up being.Think Crosstrek, which is very popular.
Crosstrek outsold the Impreza (88k vs 66k in 2015).The Subaru Crosstrek sold 88,927 units in the US during 2015. It is basically what used to be called a 4WD Tall Wagon. It was outsold by the Impreza, Outback, and Forester in its own product line. The Honda CRV, Toyota RAV4, and Ford Escape each sold over 300,000 units here last year. The CR-V and RAV4 each sold over 650,000 units worldwide last year. Those are very popular, as both are in the Top 10 worldwide. And... I'm pretty sure there will be a version of the Model ≡ that will be classified by most as a Crossover/Wagon no matter what configuration the rumored Model Y ends up being.
2015 Year End U.S. Vehicle Sales Rankings - Top 288 Best-Selling Vehicles In America - Every Vehicle Ranked - GOOD CAR BAD CAR
Focus2move| World Best Selling Car in the 2015 - All data
For at least the next ten years, anything that Tesla Motors releases must be something that will sell well in the United States of America, and this form factor is not especially popular here. Hot hatch vehicles are popular in other territories around the world because they represent the epitome of compromise on a multitude of levels. Such compromises are not to be adopted by Tesla Motors anytime soon, if indeed, ever.
That said, the Volkswagen Golf is routinely among the two or three best selling vehicles in the world annually. But it is built and sold by a company that manufactures on the order of 10,000,000 vehicles per year. It will take until at least 2024 before Tesla Motors can manage even half that capacity -- and that's if all their plans come to fruition without any issues at all.
So, no... The idea is not that Tesla Motors would offer these cars, but that they will be able to convince Chevrolet, Ford, Honda, Hyundai, Kia, Toyota, etc to do so with fully electric vehicles.
Any change we get a smaller Model X in the form of a Hot Hatch for Model Y (Ala Mercedes A45 AMG or something similar)
Yes and no.
In the petrol world, what are the main differences between a compact hatchback (like the Subaru Impreza 5-door) and a compact CUV (like the Subaru Forester)? Hatchbacks tend to be slightly shorter in the rear, resulting in a cargo compartment with less depth, and hatchbacks also tend to ride lower to the ground for better handling characteristics.
The Subaru Crosstrek sold 88,927 units in the US during 2015. It is basically what used to be called a 4WD Tall Wagon. It was outsold by the Impreza, Outback, and Forester in its own product line. The Honda CRV, Toyota RAV4, and Ford Escape each sold over 300,000 units here last year. The CR-V and RAV4 each sold over 650,000 units worldwide last year. Those are very popular, as both are in the Top 10 worldwide. And... I'm pretty sure there will be a version of the Model ≡ that will be classified by most as a Crossover/Wagon no matter what configuration the rumored Model Y ends up being.
2015 Year End U.S. Vehicle Sales Rankings - Top 288 Best-Selling Vehicles In America - Every Vehicle Ranked - GOOD CAR BAD CAR
Focus2move| World Best Selling Car in the 2015 - All data
They not only ride lower to the ground, they are not as tall. Traditional hatchbacks are the same height as sedans. Compact CUVs are taller with a more upright seating position. The Ford Focus is a hatchback. The Ford Escape is the CUV version of the same platform. They are quite different.
No. You have to read all the numbers. The combined total of all Impreza was higher:Crosstrek outsold the Impreza (88k vs 66k in 2015).
My intuition is that a future Model Y would combine CUV-like space with the lower height and Center of Gravity of a sporty hatch. The closest analog I can think of in the ICE world is the Subaru Forester XTI concept, which was a lowered Forester with a turbocharged engine. So while I wouldn't expect a hot hatch in the traditional sense, I would expect something that is better.
OK... Sure. Show me the current 'Hot Hatch' version of the BMW 3-Series. Go ahead. I'll wait.This actually makes me think that a Model 3 might be closer to "hot hatch" than Model Y, especially if it uses the same lift-back as Model S. The obvious downside of the Model S hatch area is that its long slope means less height for cargo, but this may be offset with greater depth.
No. You have to read all the numbers. The combined total of all Impreza was higher:#53 _ Subaru Impreza _________ 100,519
_____ Subaru Impreza __________ 66,785
_____ Subaru Impreza WRX/STI __ 33,734
See? You can sort the list at this link by the 'Vehicle' column.
2015 Year End U.S. Vehicle Sales Rankings - Top 288 Best-Selling Vehicles In America - Every Vehicle Ranked - GOOD CAR BAD CAR
Understood.Gotcha. Just pointing out that some of GCBC's totals may include 2014, 2015, and 2016 vehicles that were sold under the same brand and model during calendar year 2015.
OK... Sure. Show me the current 'Hot Hatch' version of the BMW 3-Series. Go ahead. I'll wait.
~*brack*~ Uhm... That's just the BMW 3-Series Wagon -- with the word 'Sport' added to its name. I do expect there will eventually be a Model ≡ Wagon, since Europe really likes the form factor. But I do not consider any five-door to be a 'Hot Hatch' at all.Closest thing is a 3-series Sport Wagon. Too long for a Hot Hatch, but somewhat more practical: http://www.bmwusa.com/bmw/3series/sportswagon
And yet another five-door -- NOT a Hot Hatch! BMW's last attempt at anything even remotely resembling a Hot Hatch was the 318ti... Which was so ugly, I don't even want to bother posting a photo.My guess is that the shape of any future Tesla Hot Hatch would be similar to this:
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10th Generation Honda Civic 5-door, due to be revealed in Geneva next week, for worldwide market.
From: http://www.autoblog.com/2016/02/26/honda-civic-hatchback-spy-shots/#slide-3812931p
It's more of a lift-back than a true hatch.