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Discussion in 'Model 3' started by TEG, Jul 29, 2017.
Hard to read but maybe:
Tesla Model 3 Long Range
126 combined city/hwy
27.0 kW-hrs per 100 miles
in fuel costs
over 5 years
compared to the
average new vehicle.
Again, this is hard to read from that photo. The numbers above could very well be wrong.
Sure would be nice if one of those lucky new owners would take a close up view of that sticker and post it here.
The “you could save” number seems weird, since on the i3, with a similar eMPG is $9k
I see 27 kW-hrs per 100 miles, which is consistent with 3370/126 = 26.74
I wasn't sure - it is so hard to read. I was guessing based on better MPGe than some other vehicles that got 27... But I changed it back based on your caculation.
I actually had 27 first, then changed it to 26 because I thought it must be better.
It looks like it used to be $9k, but not anymore.
The latest figures for the 2017 i3, show a 5-year fuel savings of only $4,000: Compare Side-by-Side You can see the specific fuel cost estimates that they're using on that page by clicking on "Personalize".
A number of variables changed since 2014 that affect the 5-year fuel savings number:
Gas prices are significantly lower in 2017 vs 2014 ($2.38 vs $3.53/gal).
Average new cars are a bit more efficient in 2017 vs 2014 (26 vs 23 mpg)
The 2017 i3 is rated as slightly less efficient than the 2014 (29 vs 27 kWh/100 mi) either due to the larger/heavier battery or a change in testing methodology
EPA is now using a slightly higher average electricity price ($0.13/kWh vs $0.12/kWh)
I found a 2014 i3 sticker with the $9,000 figure on it here: BMW i3 REx Status - Hold For Monroney Stickers Delays All US Deliveries But in the fine print it says it's comparing to an average new vehicle MPG of 23mpg, for a total 5-year fuel cost of $11,500 for driving 15,000 miles/year. Some quick math shows they used a gas price of $3.53/gallon. It also assumes an electricity price of $0.12/kWh
Looks like it says US/Canadian part content of 50%. With the gigafactory, I expected that to be higher...
Speculation: Mexican steel instead of Canadian aluminum in the frame.
75% from North America is pretty impressive. (As a comparison, Bolt is 26%)
This picture is originally from @nikeykid, posted here: Pictures of production Model 3s
3-Phase, 6-pole Internal Permanent Magnet Motor. I guess that puts the speculation to rest regarding whether or not it is induction.
Interesting. My own analysis of the raw data on the EPA submittal documents matches the mpge and kWh/100 numbers precisely. But that same analysis suggests the 310-mile range rating is conservative.
Certainly, come geek-out with us over here: [Spoiler Alert + Mild Speculation] Tesla has created a monster!
VIN #173, no PUP
Pictures of production Model 3s
Will the base model have power seats?
Not in standard features.
you would think that a $35,000 car would have power front seats. Not worth spending $5K just for the power seat option.