Most accurate way to plan a trip

[Cnasty]

Just did a 3000 mile roundtrip in my 3.

Use the nav system and let it do its thing. It was eerily accurate for arrival rates, speed needs to make it there, and routed me very well around traffic and other routes.

I was beyond pleased with its performance and I arrived with 5% or less a couple times with confidence knowing that it was so accurate and made my trip a much more enjoyable experience knowing what to expect.

The efficiency in comparison to my S was much appreciated and I routinely went 75-80 when I could knowing the efficiency the vehicle had and the accuracy of the GPS. Enjoy

 

[X Fan]

Just did a 3000 mile roundtrip in my 3.

Use the nav system and let it do its thing. It was eerily accurate for arrival rates, speed needs to make it there, and routed me very well around traffic and other routes.

I was beyond pleased with its performance and I arrived with 5% or less a couple times with confidence knowing that it was so accurate and made my trip a much more enjoyable experience knowing what to expect.

The efficiency in comparison to my S was much appreciated and I routinely went 75-80 when I could knowing the efficiency the vehicle had and the accuracy of the GPS. Enjoy

Can you share some point to point stats?

Also, I’d add that Teslafi is a great tool to monitor your daily/trip stats for the 3 ( I use it for my X ).

 

[Cnasty]

Can you share some point to point stats?

Also, I’d add that Teslafi is a great tool to monitor your daily/trip stats for the 3 ( I use it for my X ).

Sure, what details would you like?

Basically I went into this trusting the nav system to the fullest. I looked at EV Trip Planner before hand just to compare and it was pretty close to what I saw on the nav. On the way there some states were in the 30s so I calculated a little extra buffer as we were running the heater. On the way back we were in the 60s and left the moment the nav told us we had enough charge and made it to each destination with 5% of charge or so. Perfect.

 

[Larry Hutchinson]

I’ve been trying to find a two day trip from Beaverton OR to La Quinta CA with a destination charge overnight. I found one that stopped at Tachi Casino (in Lemoore, CA) and although Tesla’s go anywhere gave a route, abetterroutplanner could not find the route with the same input. It did OK on the entire route.

In fact, I’ve found it hard to find and insert overnights in any planner I have tried. Any recommendations?

 

[israndy]

I have yet to find a solution that does everything. My trip to CO last Spring was a mish-mosh of maps. I started with Tesla's and as I needed more detail I would break the trip up into segments and for things like going from Page, AZ to St. George, UT via North Rim and Zion I had to find Destination Chargers. I set those as the start or end point of a day of travel.

I ended up using an RV'ing app called Road Trippers to store all the choices in one big map. It will take 26 waypoints or more. That app and its website are GREAT for finding places to stop along the way. You can tell it to scan 20 or 40, or whatever, miles off your route and it will point out potential destinations to add to your trip.

Also, it's starting to get to the point where you can just drive and when you start needing to charge press the charge button and have it guide you to a convenient charger. Not in North Dakota surely, but here in California certainly.

-Randy

 

[aesculus]

In fact, I’ve found it hard to find and insert overnights in any planner I have tried. Any recommendations?

EVTO will do this but overnight planning is a subscription item.
tesla_to | Digital Auto Guides

 

[RedModel3]

I just finished my first big trip, 1800 miles from Nashville to Wisconsin and back. I am one of those people who has an embedded time chip in my brain - with an ICE car I can predict within a few minutes when I'll arrive. But now all bets are off, and I have to learn new ways, and I'm happy to do it.

What I'm getting at is that I was extremely conservative on this trip with my charging, and it added unnecessary time to the trip. The battery charges faster when it's emptier, so it's always faster to use as much as you feel comfortable with. I'd routinely get to the next charger with 80-100 miles on the battery, and then charge another 150 or so. But there aren't that many chargers along my route, so I almost had no choice. Only once did the navigation steer me wrong - said the chargers were on the left when they were on the right.

If you have any questions about any of the superchargers along your route, there are links right here on this website from the Superchargers app. I also agree with finding a hotel with a destination charger because of the convenience, but often they are located at more expensive hotels, so you've got to decide if your priorities are time or money.

Have fun, and I hope you have a great trip!

 

[Wooloomooloo]

I have had good results with planning predictions from:
EV Trip Optimizer EV Trip Optimizer for Tesla on the App Store

Be honest about the load weight.
Set target arrival charge to 20% until you get comfortable. Have PlugShare handy just in case of disaster.

I've seen a few people refer to this app, but it does crazy things like tell you to charge 6 times on a 400 mile trip - it estimated I would go from 85% charge to 20% charge in 90 miles. I must be doing somethign wrong.

I like EVTrip Planner, although it is clunky to use on a mobile browser. I have a long trip from NY to Akron OH coming up, so I'll see how well some of these apps predict the trip.

 

[JasJ]

The car's built in system works very well unless it's very cold, massive rain or windy. In Texas I mostly worry about wind.

I use windy.com to make sure I'm not running into a wind over 10 miles per hour. The web site will forecast wind for the next few days.

 

[outdoors]

I've seen a few people refer to this app, but it does crazy things like tell you to charge 6 times on a 400 mile trip - it estimated I would go from 85% charge to 20% charge in 90 miles. I must be doing somethign wrong.

I like EVTrip Planner, although it is clunky to use on a mobile browser. I have a long trip from NY to Akron OH coming up, so I'll see how well some of these apps predict the trip.

6 stops over 400 miles. Wow. Something strange going on there

Abetterrouteplanner.com has me at 6 stops over 1200 miles for my trip next week. Starting with 100%. Rolling in to charges with 7 to 10%. I live on the edge.

 

[Wooloomooloo]

The car's built in system works very well unless it's very cold, massive rain or windy. In Texas I mostly worry about wind.

I use windy.com to make sure I'm not running into a wind over 10 miles per hour. The web site will forecast wind for the next few days.

I've found the inbuilt system will route you through superchargers wen you don't need to charge. It would be good if it was a little more flexible. The biggest issue with this is it will literally route you through the supercharger even if it means a longer journey, even if you don't have to stop.

 

[David99]

I've found the inbuilt system will route you through superchargers wen you don't need to charge. It would be good if it was a little more flexible. The biggest issue with this is it will literally route you through the supercharger even if it means a longer journey, even if you don't have to stop.

I noticed V9 has improved the routing. I think it's worth re-evaluating the Tesla built in navigation.

 

[aesculus]

I've seen a few people refer to this app, but it does crazy things like tell you to charge 6 times on a 400 mile trip - it estimated I would go from 85% charge to 20% charge in 90 miles. I must be doing somethign wrong.

Are you sure you have the correct car and setting options set? I have seen three chargers on a 400 mile trip but not 6, unless the weather is horrendous.

Send the trip via a Feedback Report on the main menu and I will take a look to see if there is a bug in your situation. You could help others too.

 

[chrishughes]

I've got a few trips coming up, and I was wondering if the more experienced owners could share their thoughts on the best way to guess how long a trip will take. Do you go with Tesla's trip planner (Go Anywhere | Tesla) or EV Trip Planner? (EV Trip Planner)

I've got an upcoming trip from Alpharetta, GA to Waverly, NY, and Tesla's site is guessing 17 hours 8 minutes, whereas EV Trip Planner is guessing almost exactly 15 hours. That's a pretty big variation in time between the two, so I thought I'd throw it out to the community for their input.

This is crazy. I grew up in Waverly, NY! What was taking you there?

 

[Brentt]

I've used ABRP but it wasn't very accurate when it came to calculating range with a strong headwind.
The car was way more efficient than what the program calculated.

 

[puckpurnell]

I plan with ABRP because I can tweek with waypoints, etc. Because it’s not available real-time, I then use Nav on a leg by leg basis.

 

[patrick80132]

It sure looks like ABR does a better job of routing, assuming the information is accurate to some extent.

 

[puckpurnell]

It’s working for me here in New England.

 

[srijey]

So exactly what do you do you do once you have a plan on ABetterRoutePlanner. I assume you save the plan and then when you are ready to go, you login to ABetterRoutePlanner and then login to myTeslaLogin for RealTime car info. Then do you use your phone for navigation? Seems weird when you have a huge screen in the car.

Or do you just plan the route and, I assume, enter that into your cars navigation and only occasionally look at the phone as it updates with real-time car info?

I have a trip coming up in mid-April and should be getting my Model 3 in the next two weeks.

My goal is to get the optimized route on my MX 17" monitor which gives me the quickest option based on free supercharging and other boundaries like load, headwind, inside/outside temp, target charge %. Can we make Abetterrouteplanner (website) or EVTO (app) integrate with realtime on the monitor based on our real power consumption rate?

 

[aesculus]

Can we make Abetterrouteplanner (website) or EVTO (app) integrate with realtime on the monitor based on our real power consumption rate?

Unfortunately you cannot do this with EVTO since it does not integrate to the car directly. When/if Tesla comes up with a secure and published way to do this I would be willing to add it as an option.

But keep this in mind: The car already does this. It uses your last 30 miles or so for it's consumption metric and adds planned elevation change to the next stop. But this is only good if the speed, driving style, traffic, weather and other factors are constant, which they never are. This is why using the navigation and watching your estimated arrival SOC bounces around a lot. If your consumption changes during that drive, the cars estimate will change too.

So if I added this feature to EVTO it would be wrong most of the time. It's current method is supposed to be much more stable. Biggest issue is if the weather reported is different or you find yourself not driving the same was you thought you would be during planning.

So thinking out loud it might be best if EVTO just monitored your speed to see if it aligned with predicted and then also monitored the weather to see if it's changed. It currently checks the weather forecast if it's older than 6 hours. The weather is checked if you make a change or at least just select Save without a change in Edit Trip Details.