MS60

[Sybadm]

Hi, I am fairly new to Tesla world and if someone could help me to understand few technical bits.

I’m planning to buy second hand MS60 which I believe have 75kW battery. I was told by seller that it could be converted to to MS75 which would add about 40 miles which will take car to approximately 250 miles range when battery is 100% charged. When I was looking at Tesla website MS75 was RWD 298 miles WLTP and AWD was 304 miles WLTP.

I’m not able to understand if MS60 has similar battery of MS75 then why there is difference of about 50 miles... from sellers figure and Tesla website.

your help is much appreciated

thanks
Abhi

 

[Chaserr]

Some cars had a software locked 75kwh battery that had been capped to 60kwh and sold as a 60. These are the ones that can be unlocked.

 

[Sybadm]

Some cars had a software locked 75kwh battery that had been capped to 60kwh and sold as a 60. These are the ones that can be unlocked.

Thanks for your prompt response Chaserr.

Do you know if the car is built as MS75 has more range than the MS60 unlocked you MS75? I just wanted to know where 298 miles for RWD and 304 miles for AWD on tesla website comes from.

 

[kingkong5]

The model S 75D has 259 miles EPA range and the 75RWD has 249 miles EPA range. So unlocking it from 60 to 75kwh and getting 250 sounds about right.

 

[Chaserr]

AWD cars have more range than RWD cars using the same battery. The front motor is smaller and more efficient so Tesla turns off the rear at highway speeds and uses the little one only.

 

[jelloslug]

What year is the car you intend on buying?

 

[Sybadm]

Thank you all.

Jelloslug @ March 2017

 

[whitex]

Thanks for your prompt response Chaserr.

Do you know if the car is built as MS75 has more range than the MS60 unlocked you MS75? I just wanted to know where 298 miles for RWD and 304 miles for AWD on tesla website comes from.

No, unlocked 75 is the same as originally build 75.

Keep in mind however that most S60's out there are not software-locked 75's, they are actual 60 batteries. There was a limited time that software locked S75's were sold as S60's, and even shorter time when locked S70's were sold as S60's. All S60D's are software locked 75's or 70's (this is because actual 60 battery cannot power both motors).

 

[whitex]

Thank you all.

Jelloslug @ March 2017

March 2017 production date is consistent with S60 being a software limited S75.

 

[Sybadm]

March 2017 production date is consistent with S60 being a software limited S75.

Thank you so much. So after unlocking I should get about 250 miles... depending on how hard I push the paddle?

 

[DayDrinker]

Hi, I am fairly new to Tesla world and if someone could help me to understand few technical bits.

I’m planning to buy second hand MS60 which I believe have 75kW battery. I was told by seller that it could be converted to to MS75 which would add about 40 miles which will take car to approximately 250 miles range when battery is 100% charged. When I was looking at Tesla website MS75 was RWD 298 miles WLTP and AWD was 304 miles WLTP.

I’m not able to understand if MS60 has similar battery of MS75 then why there is difference of about 50 miles... from sellers figure and Tesla website.

your help is much appreciated

thanks
Abhi

Seller is wrong. I have a March 2017 S60 that has been unlocked to 75 and it maxes out charge at 220 miles.

 

[Sybadm]

Seller is wrong. I have a March 2017 S60 that has been unlocked to 75 and it maxes out charge at 220 miles.

That’s look promising from similar dates car! Thanks for your help... night night

 

[whitex]

Seller is wrong. I have a March 2017 S60 that has been unlocked to 75 and it maxes out charge at 220 miles.

I had a very early 2017 (manufactured very end of 12/2016 with 2017 VIN) S60D unlocked to S75D few months later (when it dropped to $2K) and it was charging to 223-225 miles (depending in outside temp and firmware version) at 90%. Replaced that car with 2018 S75D which charges exactly the same. Now, I don't know the exact non-D ranges, but the software limited 60's were advertised at 210 for S60 and 218 for S60D (from a screencap of my S60D order page at the end of 2016).

 

[Sybadm]

I had a very early 2017 (manufactured very end of 12/2016 with 2017 VIN) S60D unlocked to S75D few months later (when it dropped to $2K) and it was charging to 223-225 miles (depending in outside temp and firmware version) at 90%. Replaced that car with 2018 S75D which charges exactly the same. Now, I don't know the exact non-D ranges, but the software limited 60's were advertised at 210 for S60 and 218 for S60D (from a screencap of my S60D order page at the end of 2016).
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Fantastic! Thank you so much

 

[jelloslug]

My 2016 S75D was a 60D when I bought it. It went from ~220 to ~259 after the upgrade and now at 75k miles it's around 250 miles.

 

[Sybadm]

My 2016 S75D was a 60D when I bought it. It went from ~220 to ~259 after the upgrade and now at 75k miles it's around 250 miles.

Cheers